DBR9 : for BMS (2006) and Cirtek (Spa 2005)

[Graham Goodwin]

Its more a point of how many they can sell

[BSchneiderFan]

Autosport.com is talking about RAR running "Astons" and referring to "the cars"; typo, or might we see two Cirtek cars?

[Fab]

Originally Posted by GTfan

Russian Age Aston is ready! Debut in Spa (FIA GT). Ferrari is still for LMES (Convers Team) and 24h Le Mans (Cirtek)

Nice photoshop work GTfan... did you do it by yourself ? The AM is really nice with that blue livery...

Check : the source is a Russian website, http://www.asport.ru

[JAG]

Originally Posted by iconic

v8 supercars in australia runs on 2 brands.. but i'm sure DTM will survive, merc has thrown in alot of money this season..

Just like the ITC then?

Without Opel, grids will be down to 16 or so cars, thats if Audi and Mercedes run 8 cars. Highly unlikly in Audis case.

Bramzel, where did you here that Audi will pull out?

[Bramzel]

I can't recall JAG, I'm sorry. It was quite a while ago already, might as well have been a false rumour.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by Bramzel

I can't recall JAG, I'm sorry. It was quite a while ago already, might as well have been a false rumour.

There was a story, rumour about a year ago that if it was just down to two marques, then Audi would pull the plug. I don't know the source, or the reliability.....

[SALEEN S7R]

Cant say that ive heard anything official about this either, only what the commentators have said during the year regarding Opel leaving, and that if they do it might mean Audi "reviewing" the situation too. Lets just hope Opel do change their mind about pulling out, or at least if they dont someone like BMW comes into the fray. The DTM really does need at least 3 manufacturers IMO, at least if it wants to retain the the stature and the fan base it has now.

[Tom V]

Back on topic:

I suppose then Scuderia Italia will stick to their famous livery? Will be nice to have some red Aston's on the grid.

[SALEEN S7R]

Indeed Saleen it would, would add a bit of variety again too colour wise. I dont think there are any all red cars at the moment in FIA GT, at least in the GT1 class, I know we have Gruppe M in GT2 but I dont think there are any in GT1 at the moment.

[cmk]

Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

Indeed Saleen it would, would add a bit of variety again too colour wise. I dont think there are any all red cars at the moment in FIA GT, at least in the GT1 class, I know we have Gruppe M in GT2 but I dont think there are any in GT1 at the moment.

Sure there are, the GPC Ferrari 575s have more red on them than the GruppeM cars, I believe.

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by cmk

Sure there are, the GPC Ferrari 575s have more red on them than the GruppeM cars, I believe.

Larbre 550 is red!

[SALEEN S7R]

Yeah actually thinking about it your right, my mistake. I also forgot about the Labre Ferrari 550. Still, will be great to have BMS back anyway.

[marcel82]

there aren't many green cars, though

[BSchneiderFan]

Autosport is suggesting that, post-Spa, Cirtek may run Bouchut and Vasiliev in the Aston and Fomenko and Darren Turner in the Ferrari. My reaction was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Bouchut/Turner in the Aston, Vasiliev/Fomenko in the Ferrari! When will people learn? All Vasiliev's presence will do is hobble the Aston's chances.

Also, disappointingly, Beppe Lucchini says that the second BMS Aston next year will be driven by "very fast amateurs". Sigh.

[Bramzel]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

When will people learn?

When do people learn that it isn't that easy? You really think that Schirle wouldn't do that if he had the chance?

The BMS 550's were driven by very fast amateurs last year as well. A fast amateur became the champion, and not only because he had a fast teammate.

[lj79]

Vasiliev and Formenko will be integral to whoever is bank rolling this project and will ultimately dictate I would have thought.

Schirle is a canny operator and well-rounded businessman.

When will Rob Schirle learn?

You might as well try and teach Ronaldhino to play football!!!

[chunterer]

Might be good to have Turner in the 550, to give it a chacne of keeping up with the DB9 and the Mazza's!

I'm excited about the number of Aston's potentially taking part but i would still like the 550 to be up there a la Bouchut and Lamy or the 575 have bit more development?

And somebody please spend some money on the Lambo!! It sounds too damn good to be shelved!

[lj79]

The next stage of the 575 development should be ready for Imola. This was reported elsewhere on the forum but cant remember

[BSchneiderFan]

I understand the weight which financial constraints have; what I don't understand is how the sponsors who are dictating these decisions can think they're making sound judgements. If I were Fomenko or Vasiliev, I hope I'd have the grace and sense to realise what ought to be done, even if it didn't benefit me personally. What's better, to have a points finish with yourself in the car but waste much of the team's potential, or to miss out on a win yourself but see the team you're backing (and therefore your 'product') take a win?

[Bramzel]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

I understand the weight which financial constraints have; what I don't understand is how the sponsors who are dictating these decisions can think they're making sound judgements. If I were Fomenko or Vasiliev, I hope I'd have the grace and sense to realise what ought to be done, even if it didn't benefit me personally. What's better, to have a points finish with yourself in the car but waste much of the team's potential, or to miss out on a win yourself but see the team you're backing (and therefore your 'product') take a win?

What do you think? That Vasiliev and Fomenko are collecting so much money to pay for others seats? Because that's what they'd do then. I understand your point, but its not realistic to expect Vasiliev and Fomenko to take seat in the slow car. They pay a lot, so they want to race in front. Don't forget Bouchut nearly doesn't have to pay anything and Turner won't bring a lot of money either. So Vasiliev and Fomenk won't say "here's our money, use it to to make others fast and ship us off with a old spec car".