BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 17

Craner Curves · 26 Sep 2019, 14:08 (Ref:3930227)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Warwick had a troubled first season in the BTCC, then he eventually won a race. Granted his results were better in his first season than Blundell’s has been, but then times have changed in which it is now harder to break into the points

It was arguably was easier to setup and get your head around a super touring car compared to the current generation, if you listen to people who know.

Pickles · 26 Sep 2019, 15:44 (Ref:3930239)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Warwick had a troubled first season in the BTCC, then he eventually won a race.

Also his team mate was getting similar results (from memory) in his first season, that Alfa was generally regarded as a bit of a pup. His results improved when he moved to Vauxhall.

Alfisti · 26 Sep 2019, 18:35 (Ref:3930258)

My memory tells me the rules were tweaked after Tarquini wiped the floor with everyone (94?) and that the following season the Alfa was massively off the pace. I seem to recollect Frank Biela in an Audi similarly wiped the floor with everyone that year and that the following season the Audi was massively off the pace.

Whereas nowadays the tweaking is done in season, so despite some of us grumbling means we didn't have the championship decided half way into the season. Which is a good thing in my books.

Pickles · 26 Sep 2019, 18:41 (Ref:3930259)

Tarquini dominated because of the aero package on the Alfa, the following year everyone had aero and the Alfas were prepared by Prodrive instead of Alfa Corse. Biela dominated in the Audi Quattro, I think the following year they got a weight penalty and 4WD was outlawed the year after. People whinge now but the rules have always changed to stop one car running away with it.

Sodemo · 26 Sep 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3930262)

With both the Alfa in 1995 and Audi in 1997, they had virtually the same "problem". Lack of development compared to their championship winning year. Prodrive didnt do a great deal to the Alfa 155 and its now "full" aero package was poor. I believe they got a revised car at Oulton Park in 1995 which was slightly better but was still far off the leading pace. Audi was the same. 1997 they started the season with practically the same car, with a newer engine. However the rest of the pack had moved on so much that the Audi was no longer the class of the field. Audi's development was all going into the FWD car (which lasted all but 1-2 years), so they had virtually no development of the Quattro.

porsche962fan · 26 Sep 2019, 19:50 (Ref:3930266)

Audi won every touring car championship they entered in 1996...

- BTCC
- german STW ,Emanulle Pirro was more dominant in it than Hamilton in F1
- italian CVT
- australian series
- spanish series
- south african series
- belgian PROCAR

very sure if they entered swedish STCC, North american NATCC , and the french series they would have won those too hands down !!!!! but this series were 2nd or even 3rd rate

so no surprise FIA slapped them with huge penalties and they were uncompetitive in 97 , the FWD Audi was a total failure cos the the engine mounting didn't suit FWD at all and it suffered from understeer as result

S griffin · 27 Sep 2019, 14:35 (Ref:3930405)

Alfa stole a march in 94 with their aero package and as a result, Tarquini never finished out of the top 4 in every race he finished. Simoni was quick from the beginning, just had a few incidents early on. For 95 the change with aero rules meant they were overtaken by everyone, which meant results were hard to come by

Audi had it’s advantage with 4wd, however once the weight penalty came in, their advantage was eroded slightly, so they only had an advantage on tracks that suited the car. They struggled in the early part of 97 due to concentrating on the development of the 2wd car for 98. However they regained their competitiveness when they were allowed to lose 30kg off their weight penalty

Evantra · 2 Oct 2019, 15:09 (Ref:3931500)

First driver confirmed!

Cammish signs 2 year deal with Dynamics

https://teamdynamicsracing.co.uk/new...s-yuasa-racing

crmalcolm · 2 Oct 2019, 15:48 (Ref:3931505)

Can't have a confirmed entry without a table update:

Team	Car	Driver	Notes

Confirmed Entries
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Excelr8	???	???	In talks about new build - title sponsor announced
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	Cammish	2yr contract confirmed in press release

Likely Entries
HMS Racing	Alfa Giulietta	Austin	Hold TBL - have been testing
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
WSR	BMW 330i	???	???
Power Maxed	Vauxhall Astra	???	???
Power Maxed	Vauxhall Astra	???	???
Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	???	???
Speedworks	Toyota Corolla	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	???
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	Smiley?	New cars for 2019
BTC Racing	Honda Civic	???	New cars for 2019
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Moffat	selling Merc+TBL
Laser Tools	Infiniti Q50	Sutton	Sutton tested car (BMR leaving?)

Possible Entries
BMR	Subaru Levorg	???	???
BMR	Subaru Levorg	???	???
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
AmD	Honda Civic	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
TradePrice(Amd)	???	???	???
Team Parker	BMW ?	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
HARD	VW CC	???	???
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class	Morgan	???
Ciceley Motorsport	MB A-Class	???	???
Simpson Racing	Honda Civic	Simpson	???
Motorbase	Ford Focus	???	TBL on loan for 2019
???	MB A-Class	???	TBL+Car on sale from Laser Tools
???	Jag ?	Crees	Rumoured by Crees in a Facebook interview

Entries with doubt
???	???	Jordan	Lost Pirtek sponsorship
???	???	Shedden	Speculation about wanting a return

porsche962fan · 2 Oct 2019, 15:54 (Ref:3931506)

Cammish extending means the door for Shedden is pretty much closed

Robin Marriott · 2 Oct 2019, 16:01 (Ref:3931507)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evantra

First driver confirmed!

Cammish signs 2 year deal with Dynamics

https://teamdynamicsracing.co.uk/new...s-yuasa-racing

Great news, he was obviously the right choice from day one.

VIVA GT · 2 Oct 2019, 16:09 (Ref:3931510)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Cammish extending means the door for Shedden is pretty much closed

Unless Matt Neal is finally going to hang up his helmet

S griffin · 2 Oct 2019, 17:10 (Ref:3931522)

Great Cammish is staying, he’s really proved himself to be a top driver this season

GT6 · 2 Oct 2019, 17:55 (Ref:3931531)

Well i want to see a full grid of competitive cars and drivers so a bit early to start worrying about the grid yet

porsche962fan · 2 Oct 2019, 18:29 (Ref:3931546)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Unless Matt Neal is finally going to hang up his helmet

until Plato doesn't hang his neither Neal will

crmalcolm · 2 Oct 2019, 19:28 (Ref:3931569)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Cammish extending means the door for Shedden is pretty much closed

Unless:
Neal retires.
Dynamics get a 3rd TBL.
Shedden joins another team.

porsche962fan · 2 Oct 2019, 19:46 (Ref:3931572)

1) unless Plato retires too , Neal won't retire

it's like they somehow interlinked
2) don't think Dynamics are in the mood for a 3rd car, remember the now black listed Andy Neate?

3) I doubt he will come to another team unless he is paid

BLiTZ · 2 Oct 2019, 20:20 (Ref:3931579)

The article can also be read to confirm Honda's support for the same duration.

touring fan01 · 2 Oct 2019, 20:49 (Ref:3931582)

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Originally Posted by BLiTZ

The article can also be read to confirm Honda's support for the same duration.

yes i noticed that too.
good news all round.

crmalcolm · 2 Oct 2019, 21:01 (Ref:3931587)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLiTZ

The article can also be read to confirm Honda's support for the same duration.

Yes - plus Halfords&Yuasa.

Heavyd123 · 3 Oct 2019, 01:27 (Ref:3931609)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

until Plato doesn't hang his neither Neal will

Matt neal has a nice day job for income, don’t think the same can be said for JP, other than 5th gear...

BLiTZ · 3 Oct 2019, 05:47 (Ref:3931625)

I imagine that as soon as Henry (Neal) is up to speed in NGTC machinery then he might take over from Matt.

crmalcolm · 3 Oct 2019, 05:54 (Ref:3931626)

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Originally Posted by Heavyd123

Matt neal has a nice day job for income, don’t think the same can be said for JP, other than 5th gear...

JP's income streams stretch far beyond 5th gear.....

Johno.UK · 3 Oct 2019, 07:10 (Ref:3931629)

JP is no longer a Director of Brand Pilot but I expect he has some nice investments and the TV work pays far more than I thought going by what he says in his book. I wouldn't think he would need to worry about working again if he stopped everything tomorrow. Not the sort of person who could lounge around by the pool though. He'll be doing something to the day they put him in a box I expect.

Alfisti · 3 Oct 2019, 07:45 (Ref:3931633)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

1) unless Plato retires too , Neal won't retire

it's like they somehow interlinked
2) don't think Dynamics are in the mood for a 3rd car, remember the now black listed Andy Neate?

3) I doubt he will come to another team unless he is paid

Look lads, it's obvious 'init:

Jason and Matt have formed JM (MJ?) Racing and have acquired the BMR TBLs and will be shortening a pair of Porsche Cayennes to fit within NGTC rules.

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