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Old 17 Dec 2007, 19:55 (Ref:2090754)   #1
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No more Racing for Holland...

Allthough there have not yet been any officiall announcements,but since both Jan Lammers and Jeroen Bleekemolen are into deep negotiations with the newly formed Porsche RS Spyder teams,it is sadly safe to say we'll be missing one of the most intriguing sportscarteams of the last decade...
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Old 17 Dec 2007, 20:12 (Ref:2090767)   #2
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that is a shame, but a predictable one
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Old 17 Dec 2007, 20:22 (Ref:2090775)   #3
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indeed... But it was a gonner from the start of this season.

I still think Jan Lammers is up there with the best.

it's a shame he will be driving in an LMP2 car... (no offence)

But, then again, I'll keep on going to the 24hrs Du Mans as ever.
Just Love it!
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Old 17 Dec 2007, 20:52 (Ref:2090801)   #4
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indeed... But it was a gonner from the start of this season.

I still think Jan Lammers is up there with the best.

it's a shame he will be driving in an LMP2 car... (no offence)

But, then again, I'll keep on going to the 24hrs Du Mans as ever.
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Same here!

Well,one thing is good to know,if he gets behind the wheel of one of these Spyders he'll surelly drive the wheels of the thing!
His teammate of the '88 Jag victory,Andy Wallace,achieved an admirable win in LMP2 with the RML Lola at Le Mans.
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Old 17 Dec 2007, 23:31 (Ref:2090933)   #5
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No more Drinking For Holland, either???

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Old 17 Dec 2007, 23:44 (Ref:2090947)   #6
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Trust me, Drinking For Holland will be there.
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 00:38 (Ref:2090973)   #7
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That didn't take long!
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 05:12 (Ref:2091043)   #8
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Hate to see this. I wish they could have made it across the pond for Sebring.
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 08:40 (Ref:2091101)   #9
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Indeed, they had a plan for '07 to do Road Atlanta. But Nürburgring was the last time we saw Jan driving "his own" car
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Old 18 Dec 2007, 22:49 (Ref:2091620)   #10
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Come on guys, cheer up, you've still got Spyker, and Peter Kox in GTs!
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 10:44 (Ref:2091845)   #11
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And the rest... VMM, Bleekemolen, Vergers and perhaps some new Dutch kids on the block...

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Old 19 Dec 2007, 13:28 (Ref:2091945)   #12
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Pity about RfH, maybe we'll still see them around. Well you are right: don't count Kox out
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 16:14 (Ref:2092009)   #13
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Aaaah,Peter Kox in the Reiter Lambo at Le Mans in the upcomming year,mmmm.

I hope that Merkesteijn racing will aknowledge the value of Jeroen Bleekemolen for he really is a rising star in sportscars at the moment.
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 18:24 (Ref:2092132)   #14
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It's a shame, as I have a lot of time for Jan Lammers, but, to be honest, RfH underperformed. The Dome never lived up to the promise which the flashes of speed offered, and the tangible results were disappointingly meagre. Sure, Jan was unfortunate enough to launch his own prototype team in the middle of the Audi era; but it was still a bit of a shame.
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Old 19 Dec 2007, 18:58 (Ref:2092152)   #15
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I'm actually quite hopeful that we may see RFH back at some point in the future. I know Jan looked into the possibility of purchasing a new P1 chassis for 2008 so the desire to continue in ACO regs racing is unquestionably still there, and under the RFH banner.

Fingers crossed that he can put together a RFH programme for 2009!
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The problem here is the funding. Jan has publicly admitted that RfH only had losses the last years. This year's car was owned by Dome and the rest of the funding came from David Hart (including Bleekemolen's contract). Without a serious cash injection, tough to get from the big Dutch companies that look mostly at F-1 and completely ignore the LMS, not much can happen. Only a significant change of business strategy would help, enabling RfH to get a competitive package like a Lola, Zytek, etc. Dome has not considered them for this new coupe (remember 2006?) so the best option should be a new tub imho. Dome is another unfulfilled prophecy for almost a decade now. Competitive? Sure Results? Very meager (except when there was very scarce competition like in 2003).
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 17:51 (Ref:2092854)   #17
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Loosing RfH is one thing,but now I read at planetlemans that Jan Lammers is most likely not doing Le Mans this year?! Correct me if I'm wrong,but there's nothing in this article that sugests an entrance of the Horag team in the Big race...
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 19:02 (Ref:2092896)   #18
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Correct me if I'm wrong,but there's nothing in this article that sugests an entrance of the Horag team in the Big race...
The team have already stated that they have not applied for an invite to Le Mans. But, there's nothing to say that Jan won't be driving for someone else at Le Mans, is there?
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Jan is in talks for a Le Mans drive. As Bentley rightfully states, Horag said from day 1 with the Spyder that they would not be doing the big one.
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Maybe Jan can catch a ride with Martin Short!
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 22:13 (Ref:2093021)   #21
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Maybe with JJ & Johnny?
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Old 20 Dec 2007, 22:57 (Ref:2093033)   #22
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The team have already stated that they have not applied for an invite to Le Mans. But, there's nothing to say that Jan won't be driving for someone else at Le Mans, is there?
I really do hope his LM addiction will bring him back there,after all,he's never missed one since he first drove in the Canon sponsored 956...
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Maybe with JJ & Johnny?
In which car? The "virtual" CET Spyder? Jan deserves a real drive!
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...he's never missed one since he first drove in the Canon sponsored 956...

I thought he was not at le Mans in 1986, 1991, 1994, 1995.
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The situation according to Jan (interview on PlanetLeMans).
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