Grand-Am Rnd 1: Rolex 24 24-27 Jan 2008 - Page 2

ThePenguin · 23 Nov 2007, 16:06 (Ref:2074254)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

with the current exchange rate of the Dollar, they should be about as expensive as a GT2 Ferrari or Porsche...but can be used for about 5 years with only minor changes. The very first Riley chassis was still running last year for AIM motorsports.

I thought that they cost more than a GT2 car, but not by too much.

AU N EGL · 23 Nov 2007, 17:06 (Ref:2074284)

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Originally Posted by Subaru_WRX_STi

about those DPs, how much cost a Daytona Prototype ? somehow they seem cheaper than ALMS GT cars !

Riley Technologies MkXI Grand American Daytona Prototype
Price: $405,000 Standard chassis, customer-supplied engine, data and fuel management. Car delivered on used/scrubbed tires.

http://www.rileytech.com/PDFs/DP_Handout_July2007.pdf

add another :
$75,000 for engine, each
$50,000 for transmission, each
$25,000 for data & Fuel management
Plus spare parts costs

Jimmy Magnusson · 24 Nov 2007, 00:40 (Ref:2074480)

So a full package slots in between the GT2-spec 997 and F430. I assume with such restrictive engine regulations it will last for quite a while. How many km's can you do on one, and how much is a rebuild?

AU N EGL · 24 Nov 2007, 17:51 (Ref:2074777)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

So a full package slots in between the GT2-spec 997 and F430. I assume with such restrictive engine regulations it will last for quite a while. How many km's can you do on one, and how much is a rebuild?

One 24 hour race or four races before engine rebuild. Engine rebuilds run about 1/2 the cost of a new engine.

GT2 would still be more expesive.

Knowlesy · 24 Nov 2007, 21:40 (Ref:2074911)

So Motors may be showing the Rolex eh? Woohoo! I throughly enjoyed what I saw of last years event, it's a great way to kick off the motor racing year.

Do we have a (probably, at this stage, tentative) entry list yet? Are the usual stars from Indycar, NASCAR etc crossing over to do this race?

**FIRE** · 24 Nov 2007, 22:25 (Ref:2074934)

Jimmy has already tested.

Danske · 24 Nov 2007, 23:43 (Ref:2074950)

Not even an entry list for the January Test Days yet. Apart from the usual suspects, however, Da Matta and Luyendyk Jr. were at the tire tests.

Danske · 29 Nov 2007, 04:07 (Ref:2077716)

The entry lists have their first entries up now, although just a few at the moment.

Jimmie Johnson driving for Bob Stallings has been confirmed in a press release. Jimmy Vasser will also be a co-driver, and the Evil Red Car will no longer be red, but Lowe's blue and silver. Continuing evilness yet to be determined.

Danske · 29 Nov 2007, 20:45 (Ref:2078197)

Eric van de Poele, Nic Jönsson, and Ricardo Zonta just announced as season-long drivers for Krohn. Darren Turner and Oliver Gavin for the 24.

Danske · 1 Dec 2007, 20:49 (Ref:2079516)

Rahal, Wilson, and Allmendinger on the list for the 24 for Michael Shank now.

cmk · 1 Dec 2007, 20:59 (Ref:2079520)

According to the GARRA site, Joey Hand will partner Bill Auberlen in the AJR Crawford this season...mass PTG defection to AJR, or talent-sharing between the two old rivals in different series?

cmk · 1 Dec 2007, 21:01 (Ref:2079521)

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Originally Posted by Danske

The entry lists have their first entries up now, although just a few at the moment.

Jimmie Johnson driving for Bob Stallings has been confirmed in a press release. Jimmy Vasser will also be a co-driver, and the Evil Red Car will no longer be red, but Lowe's blue and silver. Continuing evilness yet to be determined.

Only Lowe's for the Rolex I wager, because of JJ. Gainsco still being aboard suggests the car will remain Evil and Red if they run the full season, which rumours suggest they will.

Danske · 1 Dec 2007, 23:53 (Ref:2079582)

That's according to an AJR press release, just to make the attribution clear.

Auberlen and Hand have both driven for non-PTG teams in Grand-Am; Auberlen was the full-time driver for Sigalsport and Hand drove a couple of times for MCM. Auberlen has also driven for AJR in the past. That just sounds more like Bill switching from Sigalsport to AJR in Grand-Am and putting in a good word for Joey than any kind of defection to me (well, except of Bill from Sigalsport

).

Bob Riebe · 2 Dec 2007, 05:37 (Ref:2079637)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Still a few weeks of 2007 left, but the next major event* for Sportscars is a 24 hour race! Hurrah. And at Daytona. Double Hurrah.

Rolex Schedule

November Testing
January Testing
The race weekend

*disagreements not welcome. As good as it is Plum Pudding at Mallory doesn't count.

Whether or not one hates, or not, what the 24hrs has become, it like Indy are institutions, that are better to exist, than to to go away like the Copper World Classic did.

Oddly I watched, and this is a rare event, the vintage sports car race from Laguan Seca, and the new owner of the Greenwood original team car actually drives it, not very fast but Lance no longer drove it, AND during the brief focus on the car, they mentioned that this was the car that hit 236 mph at " DAYTONA."
So, Daytona is a classic, and whether or not one likes GARRA, do not disrespect DAYTONA.

Bob

Danske · 2 Dec 2007, 06:42 (Ref:2079654)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Only Lowe's for the Rolex I wager, because of JJ. Gainsco still being aboard suggests the car will remain Evil and Red if they run the full season, which rumours suggest they will.

I phrased that badly. I did mean only for the 24. However, they'll only be Evil if they go about winning pole regularly and winning half the races again. A prime candidate for next year could be an Evil Green Krohn Lola as Zonta was 2-3rd quickest at Infineon and one would expect Lola to make a quick car as well.

Speed-King · 3 Dec 2007, 19:39 (Ref:2080885)

http://grand-am.com/News/Article.asp?ID=9323

Penske teams up with Wayne Taylor/ Sun Trust Racing and fields a Pontiac Riley for Kurt Busch, Helio Castroneves and Ryan Briscoe.

Danske · 3 Dec 2007, 19:42 (Ref:2080888)

http://www.grand-am.com/News/Article.asp?ID=9323

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The No. 9 Toshiba Pontiac Riley of Penske-Taylor Racing will be co-driven in the Jan. 26-27 endurance classic by 2004 Sprint Cup champion Kurt Busch, two-time Indianapolis 500 winner Helio Castroneves, and open-wheel and sports-car veteran Ryan Briscoe, who will join Castroneves fulltime on the IndyCar circuit this coming season.

dxk1 · 4 Dec 2007, 17:14 (Ref:2081503)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

http://grand-am.com/News/Article.asp?ID=9323

Penske teams up with Wayne Taylor/ Sun Trust Racing and fields a Pontiac Riley for Kurt Busch, Helio Castroneves and Ryan Briscoe.

While Penske will be participating by providing his drivers; Busch, Castroneves and Briscoe, it looks like Tony Stewart will be passing up this years race! We will miss his presence:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=276468

DK

Danske · 5 Dec 2007, 01:28 (Ref:2081764)

Ah, perhaps the #91 will be Red for the 24. Riley-Matthews has teamed up with Bob Stallings and Jim "I Don't Need No Stinkin' Sponsor" Matthews doesn't have a sponsor to displace with GAINSCO.

Danske · 10 Dec 2007, 22:58 (Ref:2086059)

Noteworty for the semi-absurdity of it all, TRG and Farnbacher Loles have a combined fourteen Porsches entered in GT right now.

dxk1 · 10 Dec 2007, 23:30 (Ref:2086079)

Motorsport.com has a detailed article on likely drivers/teams. Looks like they will have an all-star cast at this years Rolex 24 hours. Here's the link:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=276691

DK

Knowlesy · 11 Dec 2007, 00:23 (Ref:2086111)

It's looking like a hell of a lineup. The 01 car is enough for me, but the rest of the field is astonishing.

A great curtain raiser for the racing year again!

minimangler · 11 Dec 2007, 16:01 (Ref:2086598)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

It's looking like a hell of a lineup. The 01 car is enough for me, but the rest of the field is astonishing.

A great curtain raiser for the racing year again!

But does it macth the "olden days" of Derek Bell and works Jags?

(genuine question really)

Speed-King · 11 Dec 2007, 16:44 (Ref:2086622)

I think it's just different nowadays. While it was more of an world event in the 70s and 80s when the European teams came over, it's now mostly an American Allstar race with plenty of NASCAR and openwheel-drivers. As Grand Am does officially not care about markets outside North America (+ Mexico) it is probably better for them the way it is. Also Grand Am is a series geared towards American privateers, and it would be counterproductive to have European teams coming over, crushing them at the most important round of their season or worse all season long.

As exciting (from retrospective, anyway) the late 80s IMSA seems, the series fate was IMHO determined when one needed a works car to be competitive and the privateers with the 962s were turned into field fillers.
So for the health of the series the way it is at the moment is probably a good thing, for the excitement of European spectators not so much.

Jonerz · 11 Dec 2007, 16:58 (Ref:2086631)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

I think it's just different nowadays. While it was more of an world event in the 70s and 80s when the European teams came over, it's now mostly an American Allstar race with plenty of NASCAR and openwheel-drivers. As Grand Am does officially not care about markets outside North America (+ Mexico) it is probably better for them the way it is. Also Grand Am is a series geared towards American privateers, and it would be counterproductive to have European teams coming over, crushing them at the most important round of their season or worse all season long.

As exciting (from retrospective, anyway) the late 80s IMSA seems, the series fate was IMHO determined when one needed a works car to be competitive and the privateers with the 962s were turned into field fillers.
So for the health of the series the way it is at the moment is probably a good thing, for the excitement of European spectators not so much.

What European teams would do that today? All the factory money seems to be in the United States with the American Le Mans Series (minus Peugeot). Though not officially one could argue there is factory money in the FIA GT as well but once again a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Chris

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