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Old 21 Feb 2021, 23:13 (Ref:4036244)   #121
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Old 21 Feb 2021, 23:22 (Ref:4036246)   #122
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Congrats to Christopher Bell, great job! (Even better that he snatched the win away from Logano.)

Good race, really enjoyed it.

When was the last time we had two first-time winners in a row?

Edit - I'll just answer myself: the last time was in 2019, when Alex Bowman won at Chicago followed by Justin Haley winning at Daytona.

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Old 22 Feb 2021, 00:33 (Ref:4036251)   #123
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Stupid cautions - a few drops of rain, I was watching Truex on board and it didn't slow him at all that I could tell. Then we had the Kyle wreck and Chase all over the show and no cautions - totally lacking consistency.

Quite a few guys blew it by pitting that last time, Slogano had the right idea I think, though Bell really had the pedal to the metal. Made up for that dumb wreck he caused early in the 500.

Doesn't look like anyone has a particular advantage at this point of the season, early days mind!
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Old 22 Feb 2021, 06:59 (Ref:4036258)   #124
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Stupid cautions - a few drops of rain, I was watching Truex on board and it didn't slow him at all that I could tell.
Yeah I was surprised they threw the caution, but I think they expected more rain to fall and also didn't trust their drivers to slow down enough to make it to the pits on their own
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Old 22 Feb 2021, 09:36 (Ref:4036275)   #125
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Sometimes they will find a supposed good reason to throw a caution. I guess too they thought more rain to fall, but it was a tight call and does make you wonder at times if they throw a caution more to keep the action close
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Old 23 Feb 2021, 03:03 (Ref:4036364)   #126
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Chip Ganassi has been fined and ejected from the next race for violating NASCAR's Covid-19 protocols.
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Old 23 Feb 2021, 07:49 (Ref:4036373)   #127
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Chip Ganassi has been fined and ejected from the next race for violating NASCAR's Covid-19 protocols.
If Chip did his violating mid race would they throw a caution? And send the track blowers after him?

Rules are rules I suppose
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Old 23 Feb 2021, 17:29 (Ref:4036468)   #128
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https://racer.com/2021/02/23/opinion...ourse-fatigue/

Interesting read, but rather than road racing fatigue its more like "Nascar don't know what the dog gone heck they are doing" fatigue. Between excessive caution flags and the continued use of stages.

Also any winning driver can finish 30th in every race until the "playoffs" now. What motivation is that? Im surprised some drivers have not taken weeks off for the heck of it after they get a win and are assured of a top 30 in points position.

Miss Winston Cup so much. I don't watch the races at all by the way. I just read about the dumpster fire that happens week to week. At least for now until the Sebring 12 hours comes our way.
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Old 24 Feb 2021, 20:55 (Ref:4036811)   #129
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Interesting read, but rather than road racing fatigue its more like "Nascar don't know what the dog gone heck they are doing" fatigue. Between excessive caution flags and the continued use of stages.
https://racer.com/2021/02/24/tv-rati...ona-road-race/

Obvious the answer is NO Kelly only you and your TERRIBLE press releases only reporting is tired of it. We get you want to love on some mile and a half tracks but the racing there has been GARBAGE lately. 99% of it is down to the car, NASCAR has followed F1 down the wind tunnels are king rabbit hole. And they have forgotten racing isn't time trials, there are other cars. The new car has at least been testing with one other car, they need 4 or 5 at a time and of all 3, although the bodies are damn near identical.

Oh, the ratings for the road course matched the 500 if you didn't want to red the article. 2.8/4.75 million, down only fractionally from the 500. Yes, the rain delay hurt but the junior boys had a .76/1.24 million for the road race and .9/1.6 for their superspeedway event. Viewers aren't tired, only the garbage I don't want to work that hard drivers she talks to are. See the Busch idiots last year without practice, oh wait, you can't learn to drive around your problems, guess you aren't as good as you think cause others did fine.
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Old 25 Feb 2021, 15:03 (Ref:4036942)   #130
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Remove the stages, make most of the races shorter.
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Old 25 Feb 2021, 17:28 (Ref:4036957)   #131
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Yeah. One race, one chequered flag, one winner.

Shorter would be better for me - I have not stayed awake long enough to watch a Cup race from green to chequer in a long time. A real long time...
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Yeah. One race, one chequered flag, one winner.

Shorter would be better for me - I have not stayed awake long enough to watch a Cup race from green to chequer in a long time. A real long time...
Same here. Last time I pulled this off was in 2001. But I can follow the 12 hours of sebring from start to finish no problem.
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You sir should be in charge. Daytona 500, World 600 great. The rest 250-300 miles and no more than 2 hours, and go STRAIGHT THROUGH, points at the end.

Hell I would even go with no practice except a couple tracks on the calendar, allowing for tracks of similar makeup. Roll off the trucks Sat morning, quali after GN guys go out and let's race. Could even run everything Sat and Sunday. GN quali morning, Cup around noonish, GN race, Cup race Sunday afternoon and done. Trucks when applicable can filter in and allow Friday running as needed.
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I've always liked the qualifying the day of race for these guys but certainly mixing it up with not every race being the long enduros is what they need to do. Make the big races mean more and that will have to trickle down to the lower 2.

But I'm not watching much at all until the stages go away. I can stomach The Chase if I have to but the bullshit cautions and stages just drive me up the wall. The stages are pretty much competition cautions anyways, so its double maddening for me.

If they want something like stages, just do heat races; that's what they're after anyways. It would be great at short tracks especially. 30 lap / 12 car heat races with the possibility of a one off local dude trying his luck. Last chance qualifiers followed by the main event. I'd cozy up to the TV on a Saturday night for that!
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