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View Poll Results: Who is the greatest BTCC driver?
Jack Sears 0 0%
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George Shepherd 0 0%
John Whitmore 0 0%
John Love 0 0%
Jim Clark 2 8.33%
Graham Hill 0 0%
Roy Pierpoint 0 0%
John Fitzpatrick 0 0%
Frank Gardner 0 0%
Alec Poole 0 0%
Bill McGovern 0 0%
Bernard Unett 0 0%
Richard Longman 0 0%
Win Percy 0 0%
Chris Hodgetts 0 0%
Frank Sytner 0 0%
Gordon Spice 0 0%
Brian Muir 0 0%
Stuart Graham 0 0%
Richard Lloyd 0 0%
Vince Woodman 0 0%
Andy Rouse 10 41.67%
Steve Soper 0 0%
Robb Gravett 0 0%
Jeff Allam 0 0%
John Cleland 1 4.17%
Will Hoy 0 0%
Tim Harvey 0 0%
Joachim Winkelhock 0 0%
Gabriele Tarquini 1 4.17%
Frank Biela 0 0%
Alain Menu 2 8.33%
David Leslie 0 0%
Rickard Rydell 0 0%
Anthony Reid 0 0%
Laurent Aiello 0 0%
Yvan Muller 0 0%
James Thompson 0 0%
Jason Plato 1 4.17%
Matt Neal 0 0%
Fabrizio Giovanardi 0 0%
Colin Turkington 5 20.83%
Rob Collard 0 0%
Gordon Shedden 1 4.17%
Mat Jackson 0 0%
Andrew Jordan 0 0%
Ash Sutton 0 0%
Tom Ingram 0 0%
Dan Cammish 1 4.17%
Gerry Marshall 0 0%
Paul Radisich 0 0%
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Old 7 Apr 2021, 14:44 (Ref:4044964)   #1
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Who is the Greatest BTCC driver of all time?

There has been a lot of discussion recently about the GOAT of Formula 1, and I think it might be fun to start a similar discussion related to the BTCC. I do not know very much about the BTCC pre-1991, so I would appreciate it if somebody would give me a list of potential candidates from 1958-1990 before I add a poll. Separately, I will also make my own personal rankings of the greatest BTCC drivers since 1991 soon.
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Old 7 Apr 2021, 14:55 (Ref:4044967)   #2
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Andy Rouse, Frank Gardner, Win Percy, Bill McGovern, Richard Longman, John Cleland, Jim Clark, Gerry Marshall, Steve Soper to name a few for the list.
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On another note - the F1 conversation mentioned achievements outside of F1 on occasion as a criteria for some individual's merits (and Jackie Stewart agrees).

Which may mean the following drivers could also be considered as the greatest BTCC driver:

Tiff Needell, Johnny Dumfries, Roland Ratzenberger, Tony Lanfranchi, Gianfranco Brancatelli, Damon Hill, Slim Borgudd, David Coulthard, Julian Bailey, Christian Danner, Jonathan Palmer, Nigel Mansell, Joachim Winkelhock, Eric van de Poele, Jan Lammers, Gabriele Tarquini, David Brabham, Johnny Cecotto, Derek Warwick, Gianni Morbidelli, Guy Edwards, Jean-Christophe Boullion, Johnny Herbert, Martin Donnelly

(You may want to encourage decisions to be based on tin-top performances alone).
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Old 7 Apr 2021, 17:53 (Ref:4044987)   #4
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Okay, thanks for your help.
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Old 7 Apr 2021, 18:12 (Ref:4044992)   #5
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I've now added the poll, with my choices from 1991 onwards, and anyone with either a championship or more than ten wins from 1958-1990. I think that included everyone in crmalcolm's first list, but sorry if I missed anyone. The idea is that the votes would be on BTCC performances alone, but I suppose it is up to you what criteria you use to choose the GOAT of the BTCC.
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I've now added the poll, with my choices from 1991 onwards, and anyone with either a championship or more than ten wins from 1958-1990. I think that included everyone in crmalcolm's first list, but sorry if I missed anyone. The idea is that the votes would be on BTCC performances alone, but I suppose it is up to you what criteria you use to choose the GOAT of the BTCC.
Sorry, I did miss Gerry Marshall. I also meant to put Paul Radisich, but missed him by mistake.
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Sorry, I did miss Gerry Marshall. I also meant to put Paul Radisich, but missed him by mistake.
Added. No one had voted for Other at this point so I think it’s OK.
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I confess I'm all at sea here. I watched a lot of BTCC (at the circuits) back in the mid to late 80s, but nothing much before and even less since. As he was the name I always looked out for and enjoyed watching, Andy Rouse gets my vote.
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Having sat in the grandstand at Paddock at Brands and watched Jim Clark go on to win driving his Lotus Cortina one-handed, really impressed me. Early on in the race, the right hand leg of his seat collapsed, and he spent the rest of the race holding himself upright by hanging on to the roll bar with his right hand.

In those days, of course, he didn't have the luxury of power steering and paddle-shift gear changing, so it just highlighted his pure genius behind the wheel. And when he got out of the car at the end of the race, it was as though it was just no big deal; a mere inconvenience, that's all.
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Andy Rouse gets my vote, not only because he was an amazing driver but because he also lent me his engine hoist to change my engine at Knockhill back in the early 90s
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Andy Rouse gets my vote, not only because he was an amazing driver but because he also lent me his engine hoist to change my engine at Knockhill back in the early 90s
I used to love watching the likes of your little Anglia, the Minis and the BMW 2002 giving the Yank Tanks a hard time around Knockhill!
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I've been a Touring Car fan for a very long time, from the late 70's to current times (with a bit of a dip of interest a couple of years after Group A finished). Gerry Marshall was always my saloon racing hero (and the inspiration for my sign-on name here) but this was more in Special & Production Saloons than the BTCC.
In the Group 1 & Group A era's (which was the heyday in my watching time) people like Andy Rouse, Steve Soper, Win Percy, Dave Brodie & Gordon Spice always shone out.
In more recent times drivers such as Matt Neal, Gordon Shedden, Colin Turkington, Rory Butcher and Ash Sutton shine out for me.
Having said that I go back to my favourite era and pick Andy Rouse who won the championship in different makes of car, he was not ony a brilliant driver, but en exceedingly talented engineer as well.
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Has to be Randy Mouse. He always got the best out of what he had and left others watching in awe
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