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Old 30 Jan 2021, 02:30 (Ref:4031959)   #451
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Tested in an Australian court? If not, then irrelevant.
Not necessarily.

Definitions of*persuasive precedent. a past decision in a legal case that does not have to be followed in future similar cases, but which may help a judge reach a decision.



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Old 30 Jan 2021, 05:46 (Ref:4031968)   #452
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Mr Mazepin took the administrators of Force India to court over just such a thing, his belief that he had offered more for the team than the selected winner, the Stroll consortium... it’s been tested before...
Did that not get thrown out of court ? Something to do with Stroll's overall package was better for 'the business' to continue with minimal pain to employees and promised future investment being the bottom line.

I do seem to recall Mazepin saying he would still pursue it further.

Im only talking from memory here so happy to be corrected.
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Old 30 Jan 2021, 06:05 (Ref:4031969)   #453
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I think also a consortium looking for a take over is a whole lot different than a straight forward naming rights deal....

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Old 30 Jan 2021, 06:41 (Ref:4031972)   #454
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I think also a consortium looking for a take over is a whole lot different than a straight forward naming rights deal....

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Of course if your naming rights deal involved Mission Winnow or Rich Energy accepting their higher offer would not be in the shareholder interest.

The dollar value of a transaction is just one part of a broader obligation.
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The dollar value of a transaction is just one part of a broader obligation.
Basically what I was trying to say in my recent post but this explains it much better and in simpler terms.
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Old 30 Jan 2021, 07:15 (Ref:4031974)   #456
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Basically what I was trying to say in my recent post but this explains it much better and in simpler terms.
It is a specious argument when referring to a simple naming rights partner.

If one was The Daily Planet and the other Supercheap, sure.

Supercheap CHOSE not to outbid Repco. I guarantee you they had the right to in their contract.

But after a long sponsorship they chose to exit in a way where it did not look like their choice to end it. It is a master-stroke of misplaced bullshit sympathy.

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It is a specious argument when referring to a simple naming rights partner.

If one was The Daily Planet and the other Supercheap, sure.

Supercheap CHOSE not to outbid Repco. I guarantee you they had the right to in their contract.

But after a long sponsorship they chose to exit in a way where it did not look like their choice to end it. It is a master-stroke of misplaced bullshit sympathy.

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I dont disagree in the slightest. Basic PR 101.
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Old 30 Jan 2021, 10:49 (Ref:4032003)   #458
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It is a specious argument when referring to a simple naming rights partner.

If one was The Daily Planet and the other Supercheap, sure.
You’d prolly get more bang from your buck with Daily Planet
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Old 30 Jan 2021, 21:02 (Ref:4032160)   #459
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It is a specious argument when referring to a simple naming rights partner.

If one was The Daily Planet and the other Supercheap, sure.

Supercheap CHOSE not to outbid Repco. I guarantee you they had the right to in their contract.

But after a long sponsorship they chose to exit in a way where it did not look like their choice to end it. It is a master-stroke of misplaced bullshit sympathy.

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If one was The Daily Planet and the other Supercheap, sure.
If The Daily Planet offered what Repco allegedly offered, they'd likely be like one of the services that they offer
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Old 2 Feb 2021, 05:55 (Ref:4032939)   #461
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Just reading that Whincup is retiring from a full-time drive. Details from Touring Car Times; they're pretty reliable.

Also a bit more info on Dane stepping down.

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Old 2 Feb 2021, 19:37 (Ref:4033098)   #464
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i found it interesting that speedcafe failed to mention Tony Quinn taking a 40% shareholding in T8, therefore reducing Roland's share to 11%, no longer the 51% controlling shareholder. I thought that was almost bigger news.

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i found it interesting that speedcafe failed to mention Tony Quinn taking a 40% shareholding in T8, therefore reducing Roland's share to 11%, no longer the 51% controlling shareholder. I thought that was almost bigger news.
Indeed, yet the TCT piece has the whole shareholding laid out in black and white.
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i found it interesting that speedcafe failed to mention Tony Quinn taking a 40% shareholding in T8, therefore reducing Roland's share to 11%, no longer the 51% controlling shareholder. I thought that was almost bigger news.
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Indeed, yet the TCT piece has the whole shareholding laid out in black and white.
Speedcafe has rolled the story out in several parts:

Whincup to retire, take over as 888 Boss

Dane to step down as 888 Boss

Millionaire businessman buys into 888 (about Quinnie)

Who will replace Whincup at 888

Whincup to consider 888 co-drive

Q & A - the future of 888

Far too big a story here in Oz to go into one piece really. In terms of the news size, I guess it would be about as big as Lewis retiring from racing to run the Mercedes F1 team and Toto stepping back would be in the UK.

Deserving of its own thread possibly.
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Deserving of its own thread possibly.
I did ponder that, but I didn't want to be a presumptuous Pom
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I did ponder that, but I didn't want to be a presumptuous Pom


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Just test days so nothing to indicate that's the new norm for season proper.
Multiple teams are running the driver's name on the driver's side, number on the passenger's side window display at Phillip Island like Erebus did last week, appears to be something that is to be implemented, or at least SCA have asked the teams to trial.
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Multiple teams are running the driver's name on the driver's side, number on the passenger's side window display at Phillip Island like Erebus did last week, appears to be something that is to be implemented, or at least SCA have asked the teams to trial.
It's in the regs for this year: https://www.v8sleuth.com.au/new-driv...for-supercars/
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Multiple teams are running the driver's name on the driver's side, number on the passenger's side window display at Phillip Island like Erebus did last week, appears to be something that is to be implemented, or at least SCA have asked the teams to trial.
Yes mate, you are correct.
I saw an article yesterday in auto action that stated drivers names and the car number will both be used on front windscreen and side windows.


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Sorry, I saw it on V8sleuth site

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Well theres only one enduro race to worry about

Looks like the decision on adding names to windscreens is still to be made.
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