888 About to announce something big??? Guess what it is.... - Page 2

STEALTHY · 23 Jul 2009, 04:04 (Ref:2506416)

So OP, still waiting for this something big?

F J Nedos · 23 Jul 2009, 04:06 (Ref:2506417)

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Originally Posted by stoned pony

Yes, I've always thought of Pamela Anderson as a Number Two.

Well, "two" things are normally associated with her...

You can't beat a good Aussie I reckon. NAC's photographic exploits might be the only exception.

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jul 2009, 04:47 (Ref:2506423)

In the world of risk management, does anyone besides me see a risk in having the 2 expensive drivers, and the sponsorship contract all concluding at the same time?

3 more years.........

Interesting stuff!

peckstar · 23 Jul 2009, 06:54 (Ref:2506431)

it does mean that in 3 years Roland can give up he wants.

Also if vodaphone dont re-new then he can let the drivers go.

there are positives and negatives to it from a risk managment point of view

cavvy · 23 Jul 2009, 08:36 (Ref:2506462)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

700k thats abit of a bargain for Roland.

Jaime wouldn't of been trying to push his price abit higher by threatening to go OS would he?????

No disrespect to Winky but $700k is too much to be paying the #1 driver in the category in my humble opinion, even though its has come down since the poaching days rewarded Craig Lowndes so well.

Yes, it is a subjective opinion.

Oh for the days when Aussies best got a seat at Le Mans ... is it a disrespect for the category?

peckstar · 23 Jul 2009, 08:38 (Ref:2506464)

how much should they be paid cavvy?

V8 Fireworks · 23 Jul 2009, 13:27 (Ref:2506624)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

No disrespect to Winky but $700k is too much to be paying the #1 driver in the category in my humble opinion, even though its has come down since the poaching days rewarded Craig Lowndes so well.

Sure is. 2-3x the PM's wage, to drive a race car for a handful of weekends is pretty rich. Pretty cosy gig compare to the 60 something (?) races a year for double duty NASCAR drivers.

Perhaps 888 see it like this? Even though other drivers might have similar talent, they know Whincup is in the team, has the right chemistry with the engineers and is getting the job done. Beside by the time they build up Caruso or Coulthard's (etc) profile they would have already profitted the $450k difference in "whincup" branded cap sales!

STEALTHY · 23 Jul 2009, 13:59 (Ref:2506644)

I think you'll find a drivers role is more involved than just 'rock up and drive a few weekends a year'

Bevan-L · 23 Jul 2009, 19:44 (Ref:2506788)

so they're both signed for another 3 yrs...... yay!

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jul 2009, 21:55 (Ref:2506884)

Money taken from AFL sponsorship pool

TC will be crowing about this for years to come!

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jul 2009, 23:47 (Ref:2506933)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Money taken from AFL sponsorship pool

TC will be crowing about this for years to come!

Does it suggest that the addtional funds might be used to run a 3rd car from that stable? If there is a merger with PCR in the wings... 888 may become a 4 car megateam...

Just Do It! · 24 Jul 2009, 00:42 (Ref:2506942)

Does Mr McMellon (sp?) want out or more?

racer69 · 24 Jul 2009, 05:47 (Ref:2506984)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

how much should they be paid cavvy?

I don't see a problem with them earning that much.

They should be paid whatever the marketplace is willing to, if they can get $1mill a year or whatever good on them

Pro Racer · 24 Jul 2009, 06:33 (Ref:2506989)

i agree racer and from my perspective as a motorsport fan couldn't care much for what they are paid aslong as i get a good show on the track on raceday.

V8 Fireworks · 24 Jul 2009, 11:07 (Ref:2507082)

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Originally Posted by racer69

They should be paid whatever the marketplace is willing to, if they can get $1mill a year or whatever good on them

The top V8 drivers earning more than backmarker and/or rookie F1 drivers, when adjusted to US dollars seems a little odd though.

cavvy · 24 Jul 2009, 11:32 (Ref:2507097)

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Originally Posted by racer69

I don't see a problem with them earning that much.

They should be paid whatever the marketplace is willing to, if they can get $1mill a year or whatever good on them

If the sport, the category even, was flush with money, as it was when Ford poached Holdens rising star, it did not matter.

Today $700k looks over the top ... would Winky do the job for $350k IF it was on a par with Lowndes & Tander, even his ex (flatmate).

How do these guys compare with Messrs Caruso, Coulthard & Holdsworth ?

PS: great result from Supercheap .........http://www.insideretailing.com.au/De...articleId=5827

Micklegend · 24 Jul 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2507102)

I think some of the knockers here are peed off because the red side wont get a shot at signing whincup or lowndes for 3 years, and by that time CL will be ready to sign off and just do enduros and JDub will have the kitty full to do nascar.

also i think its smart 888 signing a telco for 3 years when some of our booze branded teams may be on shaky grounds with money if Krudds alcohol sponsorship ban gathers momentum.

at least i wont be wearing outdated merchandise any time soon!

St00ge · 24 Jul 2009, 12:56 (Ref:2507140)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Money taken from AFL sponsorship pool

TC will be crowing about this for years to come!

I would think for a marketing exercise that whatever they pay for total coverage of 888, the top v8 team (two whole cars + team/personal branding) is better bang for buck than 1.4mill of a couple of small logos on the back of some footy jumpers of clubs from lower half of the AFl table with no real prospects in the next couple of seasons... Think of how many news reports, back pages of the paper and PR media events have featured the vodafone cars after winning races these past couple of years..

V8 Fireworks · 24 Jul 2009, 22:35 (Ref:2507388)

From humble beginnings... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XrNxgqZwn8 (~5:00) Fortunately 888 have learnt how to do a pit-stop at Bathurst since then (what clown allowed everybody and anybody to stand in the pit lane?).

Briggs certainly was not the richest or most competitive team when 888 purchased them, so all credit to 888 for building one of the biggest teams in Australian touring car racing.

V8 Fireworks · 24 Jul 2009, 22:39 (Ref:2507391)

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Originally Posted by St00ge

the top v8 team is better bang for buck than 1.4mill of a couple of small logos on the back of some footy jumpers of clubs from lower half of the AFl table with no real prospects in the next couple of seasons...

If they sponsored the Power properly (say 3m p/a instead of 500,000 p/a) then maybe Port could continue to be a power-house. Continual budget cuts year on year for the Power's football dept can not be doing them any good, if only they had the budget of the crows or collingwood then they would show everybody and Vodafone would have their name in the papers...

peckstar · 25 Jul 2009, 03:18 (Ref:2507458)

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Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

From humble beginnings... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XrNxgqZwn8 (~5:00) Fortunately 888 have learnt how to do a pit-stop at Bathurst since then (what clown allowed everybody and anybody to stand in the pit lane?).

Briggs certainly was not the richest or most competitive team when 888 purchased them, so all credit to 888 for building one of the biggest teams in Australian touring car racing.

in many ways the need for safety in pit lane is well shown in the footage. was there a pit lane speed limit then. We dont here of many injuries in the pits in the current v8 series, which is a good thing.

There was a reasonable crowd there that weekend, but not as much as the v8 race

STEALTHY · 25 Jul 2009, 03:20 (Ref:2507460)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

in many ways the need for safety in pit lane is well shown in the footage. was there a pit lane speed limit then. We dont here of many injuries in the pits in the current v8 series, which is a good thing.

There was a reasonable crowd there that weekend, but not as much as the v8 race

I'll admit i never really payed much attention to the touring cars before they were the V8s, but i only know of injuries in recent times, not pre V8 days (ie pre speed limit and personnel limit)

peckstar · 25 Jul 2009, 03:24 (Ref:2507461)

stealthy if you think of the injuries from current day they are not car/person contact injuries.

This has been a big improvemnet, although it is still common in other series

cavvy · 25 Jul 2009, 05:05 (Ref:2507476)

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Originally Posted by St00ge

I would think for a marketing exercise that whatever they pay for total coverage of 888, the top v8 team (two whole cars + team/personal branding) is better bang for buck than 1.4mill of a couple of small logos on the back of some footy jumpers of clubs from lower half of the AFl table with no real prospects in the next couple of seasons... Think of how many news reports, back pages of the paper and PR media events have featured the vodafone cars after winning races these past couple of years..

Remember Betta Electrical got similar coverage & went into receivership.

No doubting the professionalism of T888 in servicing the sponsors needs !

petebendon · 26 Jul 2009, 20:49 (Ref:2508628)

i herd a whisper lowndes is still talking to ford to market falcons!

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