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It's not something that they ought be discussing publicly. Also they won't be in possession of all of the facts presently. What they should have done by now is issued an advisory to all member clubs stating the position "as they know it to be with further information to follow".
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In a letter to our club dated 22 November 2012. The actual words were : "Whether your club agrees or not is of no relevance. The Executive has the authority under the constitution to make decisions and to implement them".
I thought that the Member Clubs were in fact what constitutes MSNZ but it seems at least some of the Executive think the views of Member Clubs are irrelevant. |
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can you please provide the paragraphs either side of your qoute ( or the whole letter) so we can make an imformed descision as to whether your club has been belittled by MSNZ, or if the the response was , in fact, to something so absurd that MSNZ were never gonna agree with it?? |
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It appears the MSNZ response was in context to this observation that our club made in a letter to MSNZ : We note that this section of the National Sporting Code says that MSNZ may authorise and organise events, however it certainly does not say that MSNZ must run such a championship. Not running a championship is certainly an option that MSNZ could explore if running that championship was to the financial or any other detriment of Member Clubs. Additionally, the National Sporting Code provides for New Zealand MotorSport championships to be organised by Member Clubs not MSNZ. |
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Absolutely unbelieveable! To make an emotive comment like that without facts runs contrary to what you actually congratulated the poster for. If you have facts to support this emotive outburst, please share, otherwise please just share a reasoned opinion. |
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I hope it isn't a case of MSNZ thinking the Clubs are irrelevant (as the President of MSNZ told us our club was).[/QUOTE]
I have to agree Roger, it is not a well-worded letter. I cannot apologise for the letter as I didnt write it and it does not help the situation at all. Please be assured that the Exec do understand the value of all the clubs in MSNZ. However; I am Sorry for the negativity it has caused |
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However; I am Sorry for the negativity it has caused[/QUOTE] Thanks Crunch. |
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To elaborate - the issue was the promotion of the 2012/13 Tier 1 Series by MSNZ after MPL folded. There was commentary from MSNZ that they were obligated to run the Championship Series. We observed what was written in the National Sporting Code on this matter (as partly recorded in post #35). We suggested that the Code did not actually obligate MSNZ to run a Championship as the word used was "may" organise and promote a Championship which gave an option of not running the Championship. Additionally, the Code stated that a Club could run a Championship event so this was an alternative to MSNZ running it. We commented that this gave the opportunity for MSNZ to consider not running or promoting a Championship event or series if it was detrimental to the sport or if it was likely to be financially untenable. The response from MSNZ was that they were going ahead with running the Championship Series and our Club's view on this matter was irrelevant. |
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but maybe there were more clubs that did want it to go ahead? in which case if your the minority your voice is irrelevant as majority rules? there is usually more than one side to a story. |
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