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30 May 2019, 12:47 (Ref:3906954) | #26 | ||
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It will be interesting to see the entry for next weeks Dunlop Saloon Car Cup race at Donington next week .
Unfortunately since the beginning of May there have been high profile Historic meetings at Donington , Silverstone and Brands Hatch and with the Masters meeting at Donington next week as well the stuffing seems to have been knocked out of the MRL entries at Thruxton . |
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I think ne of the problems is the lack of testing.
Like for like its the fastest circuit in the country and you want a car that's well set up unless you like the countryside |
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Ok, I am aware of a few who might have entered are having to save the pennies this year but Thruxton is a legendary UK touring car venue and should get a full grid! it was a well attended by the public last year too. It is more likely though that there are too many big hysteric meetings scheduled one week after the next through may and June. Competitors who own more than one car will have to choose where they go. People like John Spiers and Patrick Watts can run more than 1 type of car at Thruxton but people who normally do the Spa or Dijon events won't do Thruxton if it risks them having to miss the overseas events. I mean why did the Masters organisers put on a Donington meeting the week after Thruxton and that has had races cancelled! The big Brands meeting has only just gone! I don't think i've ever seen a U2TC entry as low as this. Ever. The main organisers and clubs really need to consult with each other better in time for next year to avoid this sort of fixture pile up continuing. Rant over! |
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30 May 2019, 13:01 (Ref:3906959) | #29 | ||
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There are test sessions tomorrow afternoon . Last year's HTCC races didn't have that much larger grids ( fifteen or sixteen from memory ) and still provided an entertaining spectacle .
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Maybe a few late entries will materialise. Donington Beg May Silverstone Mid May Brands End May is enough already over 4 weeks. There should then be a good 4 week gap to the next biggish historic meeting in the UK let alone those Peter Auto events. More effort should be made to get that lot to join up with a UK round. Thruxton could have a later June slot leaving plenty of time before the Silverstone Classic. Masters Donington always used to be later in the year, September? That could follow nicely after the Oulton Gold Cup. Then the HSCC finals in October rounds off a good year with decent prep/repair gaps in between the events. HSCC Donington late March/early April MRL Donington Fest Beg May HSCC Silverstone Mid May Brands end May MRL Thruxton end of June S'stone Classic end of July Gold Cup end Aug Masters Donington, mid-late Sept Masters Combe Early Oct HSCC finals mid-late Oct. Chuck in a Mallory event somewhere and jobs a goodun Not hard is it?! |
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30 May 2019, 13:24 (Ref:3906961) | #31 | ||
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The entries make Peter Auto seem otherworldly.They get massive grids at there smaller rounds.3 weeks since Spa and they've still attracted good numbers at Dijon.
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It could be that even the well-heeled don't think they are getting value for money. Almost £1,200 entry fee for U2TC's 30 minute practice and two 40 minute races seems over the top to me.
At least with so few cars there may not be too many safety car/red flags to further reduce their track time. |
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Thruxton produces small grids at every meeting apart from the BTCC and the BSB.
Single figure grids are not uncommon there, not sure why but it's been this way for some time. Last year had 151 cars running over the weekend, this year there are 184 on the entry lists. Woodcote/S.Moss is one car down on last year, the HTCC/TDT are two less. I will be wandering around the circuit taking the odd snap over the weekend but will make an early exit on Saturday evening before the U2TC race starts. Last edited by brands; 30 May 2019 at 20:56. Reason: adding a bit |
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Entry lists, looks more as they list two driver entries twice.
https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...V1-WEBSITE.pdf |
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I remember last year being a bit of an anti climax, particularly disappointing for me as I slept over in my van on the Saturday so this year I'll restrict my spectating to Sunday only. I should add that at 70+, I think my days of camping out have probably ended!
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31 May 2019, 06:45 (Ref:3907102) | #37 | ||
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The Super Touring races were canned last year in what was a difficult season for that series . Ironically the rejuvenated Dunlop Saloon Car Cup may have impacted on the HTCC entry at Thruxton with a race next weekend at Donington .
The sight and sound of Karin Chandhok in the Williams was one to behold especially in the Friday afternoon test sessions , when he was sharing the track with sundry Formula Ford's etc . It must have been an experience for the Formula Ford drivers as well ! |
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The older cars have always tended to run in their own (MRL) series except for the Classic. I also think that the ever increasing prices of some of these older cars has started to deter owners from running them? There's more than enough of the m out there after all. |
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I don’t want to harp on about PA HTC races, but they’ve got 43 cars entered for Dijon, and from memory had over 50 at Spa. Admit there’s only a few GpA entries next weekend, most being Gp2, but seems mainly the UK where it’s difficult to get the cars on track.....
Seems the Dunlop Saloon Car Cup that was I thought was intended for SuperTourer cars now relies on earlier saloons to bolster grids? But with regard to Thruxton, it’s stuck in the middle of a very busy period, and something’s got to give..... |
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31 May 2019, 12:20 (Ref:3907160) | #40 | ||
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Doesn't Peter Auto draw their competitors from all over Europe ? This year at least MRL and Masters seem to be aimed mainly at UK competitors and circuits .
Dunlop Saloon Car Cup entry for Donington just published and shows fourteen entries with just three Super Tourers entered . Perhaps MRL and HSCC should look to merge their series rather than having two weak ones . |
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I'm just wondering whether the creation of this event was maybe a step too far with so many competing series on the calendar at this time of year. Much as I love Thruxton being reasonably close to me for spectating, I'm beginning to think that the organisers were a bit late jumping on the historic festival bandwagon as have so many circuits over recent years. The much lauded revival historic F2 series featuring the Jochen Rindt trophy at Thruxton fell flat on it's face a few years back which was a great shame.
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Don't think Donington had their Masters meeting last year . Certainly it's affected both HTCC type races this year .
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Going back to PA, they do draw most of their competitors from mainland Europe, and some UK based racers from previous seasons are absent this year. But some with multiple cars are missing UK events as well, so not sure if that’s brexit related or just down to personal circumstances..... |
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PA also only run one big event a year in each of several different and distant countries. We are trying to squeeze six or seven a year into one country, mostly before the end of June. There has to be a consolidation and a better spread through the year or historic racing's bubble will surely burst, just as has modern club racing.
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31 May 2019, 18:42 (Ref:3907199) | #46 | ||
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Lovely evening here watching the planes take off. Had a few laps this afternoon .Crikee forgot how fast this place is . 35 years ago I had my first FJ race here . Now I am back driving the very same car. Happy days .
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Interesting article by Stephen Lickorish in Autosport this week about small grids (beyond historic). Drivers and spectators will surely get increasingly choosy where they spend their money - although I do realise that for many events the gate money is much the lesser factor.
Heading to Thruxton tomorrow - camera in hand - my first visit since the mid 90s. |
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Toasty now the fog has burnt off.
Nice interview with Iain on the PA. Walking some miles around the first half of the circuit. |
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After the visceral sensory overload at Brands last week, the relaxed and gentle ambiance of a sunny Thruxton paddock was a contrasting delight. The entry was low on numbers but high on quality and it is a great place to easily see the cars, especially around the assembly area. The circuit is splendid for spectating and even if some races were a little dull there is always something to enjoy
This event has an appeal all of its own. I hope that it can find a permanent place in the calendar even if it has to be a little less ambitious in the grids it seeks to fill |
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