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Old 15 Feb 2013, 22:18 (Ref:3205555)   #481
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I will get in contact with Peter Boyd and see whether he can provide any additional details. Unfortunately I don't know the previous owner and was not provided with any type of log book. Best I recall it was used for oval racing in California and had an aluminium block V8 installed..

Engine is long gone but have secured a replacement Lotus Ford Twin Cam as I am quite sure it was orginally a used for Formuiula B - either a BT21A or C. I have the original Hewland transmission and all of the other bits and pieces.

I will let you know what Peter says.
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Old 22 Mar 2013, 19:29 (Ref:3222936)   #482
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BT21B/22

some information about BT21B/22

1968: new to Jürg Dubler
1969: supposed to be owned by Joakim Bonnier, but that´s not sure
1970: Heinz Hartmann
1971: Felix Martin

later sold to Heinz Schreiber and now in restored condition owned by Klaus Rosshuber
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Old 12 Jun 2013, 17:41 (Ref:3261662)   #483
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Tucker F4 (Brabham BT21B)

Has anyone information on a Tucker F4 1.3 litre which was based on a converted BT21B. Believed raced by Susan T P Jamison?
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Old 18 Jun 2013, 22:10 (Ref:3264595)   #484
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Tucker F4

What would you like to know? I might be able to help?
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Old 25 Feb 2015, 20:27 (Ref:3508966)   #485
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BT 21A-4

Dick Smothers in chassis BT21A-4 at Road America, 1968.
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Old 24 Mar 2015, 00:16 (Ref:3518828)   #486
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Ted,

you seem to have some detailed info associating AM with Brabham Chassis numbers. would you have anything on AM 240. I own that one and am restoring it and also trying to recreate its history. Car has been in my garage for 25 years, it was purchased in California in 1989 through a third party from Peter V. Boyd..

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Old 24 Mar 2015, 00:47 (Ref:3518831)   #487
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Does anyone remember selling a BT21 to Peter V Boyd sometime in the middle to late 80's.
It was or became shortly thereafter became an oval cart racer with small block V8 which I purchased in 1989 from California. Am trying to establish its history. Given the transaxle with it is an H5 model, I am now assuming it was a 1967 BT21A. Am trying to work back so I can establish the original Brabham chassis number by using the transaxle and frame numbers. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 26 Mar 2015, 05:55 (Ref:3519657)   #488
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Steve Wilkinson and Allen brown are trying to help determine the chassis numbers of my car frame # AM 240. I read in previous message some years back that there are some log books in existence that cross reference the official Brabham chassis number with the engine and transaxle number. These records apparently did not however track the frame number. Allen or Steve are trying to secure access and do a cross reference. If anyone else has access to the original log books or copies of them, please respond so that I can supply my transaxle # and hopefully establish the chassis number of the car. I can now definitively confirm that Peter V Boyd owned the car before I did and had registered it in 1989 with the California Brabham register managed by John Hafkenschiel.

Any help in getting this car history sorted out would be gratefully accepted.
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Old 14 Sep 2015, 01:35 (Ref:3573700)   #489
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AM 206 F3-36-67

Hi guys.
Has anyone got information on this F3 chassis BT21?
I think it is AM206 but could be AM208. Pretty hard to read.

Have had it described as a Cassegrain car for 67 and Frank Williams for 68, but elsewhere on this thread, chassis plate #35 is Cassegrain and #36 is down as a Frank Williams car.

It moved into Canada/USA 69 ?
Appreciate any clarifications that you may be able to provide
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Old 14 Sep 2015, 07:40 (Ref:3573744)   #490
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Hi guys.
Has anyone got information on this F3 chassis BT21?
I think it is AM206 but could be AM208. Pretty hard to read.

Have had it described as a Cassegrain car for 67 and Frank Williams for 68, but elsewhere on this thread, chassis plate #35 is Cassegrain and #36 is down as a Frank Williams car.

It moved into Canada/USA 69 ?
Appreciate any clarifications that you may be able to provide
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Welcome Tony

Both those cars went to Canada and BT21/35 at least can be traced a good way into the 1970s. I won't comment on the AM number online but if you want to contact me at allen@oldracingcars.com, I'll be able to say more.

Can you tell us the recent history of the car? Where is it now? How far can you trace it back?
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Old 15 Sep 2015, 00:06 (Ref:3573917)   #491
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A register for Brabham frame numbers

Is there a reference source for the original chassis frame numbers of Brabhams?
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Old 15 Sep 2015, 01:19 (Ref:3573925)   #492
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Is there a reference source for the original chassis frame numbers of Brabhams?
No there is no record of frame numbers, and by the time frames were transported from Arch Motors, stacked and re-stracked and then built up they were very much in random order. It is possible to sometimes see a sequence and make a guess as to when they were built but that's all.
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Old 15 Sep 2015, 03:51 (Ref:3573941)   #493
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Thanks Andrew.
Bit of a shame but that's how the cookie crumbles.
Appreciate the reply.
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Old 2 Mar 2016, 22:24 (Ref:3619429)   #494
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Brabham BT 21 history

I have posted in the past about my BT21. I am still in the process of recreating the car's history and to that end have recently made some progress. I now have confirmation of the car's history going back to 1973 when it was purchased by Kenny Hamilton of Boise Idaho. Kenney reconfigured the car as an oval racer nicknames "Superfly" . I have talked to kenney and compare pictures of his car against those I had and confirmed we are talking about the same car. Kenney then sold it in late 1975 to Vern Hollowpeter of Ontario Oregon and it eventually went to Peter Boyd whom I purchased it from in 1988.

Unfortunately Kenney does not remember who he purchased it from but there is a possibility it was from Gary Gove who raced a BT 21 in the early 70's. He had a BT21 that he purchased from a Doctor W T Monson. The timing and location of the various owners seem correct, so perhaps it may be the same car.

Can anyone out there help me get into contact with Gary Gove or remember remember this BT 21 in the early 70"s.
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Old 19 May 2016, 17:32 (Ref:3642934)   #495
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Can anyone help with the chassis number of the BT21 that belonged to Rex Twaits or Gary Jarlsen in the US back in the 1980's?

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