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Old 7 May 2014, 23:52 (Ref:3403564)   #1
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V8ST - 2014/15

Thought it was time to start a new thread with the series changing its calendar to run over summer.
Interesting to note that Round 5 sees the V8ST make their first trip to Levels with Ruapuna following 2 weeks later. As for Round 4 I'd personally I'd like to see Manfield get it as Pukekohe already features twice in the calendar.

ROUND ONE:
TAUPO 400, September 27-28, Taupo Motorsport Park
ROUND TWO: WAIKATO 400, November 1-2, Hampton Downs
ROUND THREE: FUCHS 500, November 29-30, Pukekohe Park Raceway
ROUND FOUR: Unconfirmed at this stage (either Pukekohe or Manfeild)
ROUND FIVE: TIMARU 250, March 7-8, Levels Raceway
ROUND SIX: CHRISTCHURCH 250, March 21-22, Mike Pero Motorsport Park
ROUND SEVEN: GRAND FINAL: PUKEKOHE, April 24-26 with V8 Supercars.
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Old 11 May 2014, 03:02 (Ref:3404779)   #2
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V8ST’s open letter to Ian Booth, Chairman NZV8 Touring Cars, on their Facebook page.
Ian’s subsequent comments / replies have been removed from this page, because quote: “It is not our intention to have a public debate about this……We wish to ensure that the facts were on public record, to remove any confusion.”
Ian’s apparent first reply was noting who he had spoken to and the approx. when.
Obviously the site administrator was able to verify Ian’s comments before removing them, as the “facts” are all V8ST wish. Considering the apparent time frame between post and removal it is highly unlikely.

You then have to question the motives behind the “Open Letter” and secondly not allowing an Open Reply throws doubt on V8ST’s sincerity at obtaining the facts and placing them on public record, also their interest at any reconciliation with NZV8. The word Propaganda comes to mind.

I’m sure Ian nor NZV8 Touring Cars are not particularly happy with the one sided public spat and wouldn’t blame them if they have no further contact or association with V8ST.

This doesn’t help the current situation with Motorsport in NZ, but obviously this is what the management of V8ST want. Hard to believe previous statements made regarding resolving differences for the betterment of motorsport in NZ with that attitude.

It would be interesting to see what V8ST teams and their sponsors think about this letter.
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Old 11 May 2014, 11:43 (Ref:3404895)   #3
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It's just like the Ukraine all over again...
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Old 12 May 2014, 06:24 (Ref:3405216)   #4
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V8STís open letter to Ian Booth, Chairman NZV8 Touring Cars, on their Facebook page.
Ianís subsequent comments / replies have been removed from this page, because quote: ďIt is not our intention to have a public debate about thisÖÖWe wish to ensure that the facts were on public record, to remove any confusion.Ē
Ianís apparent first reply was noting who he had spoken to and the approx. when.
Obviously the site administrator was able to verify Ianís comments before removing them, as the ďfactsĒ are all V8ST wish. Considering the apparent time frame between post and removal it is highly unlikely.

You then have to question the motives behind the ďOpen LetterĒ and secondly not allowing an Open Reply throws doubt on V8STís sincerity at obtaining the facts and placing them on public record, also their interest at any reconciliation with NZV8. The word Propaganda comes to mind.

Iím sure Ian nor NZV8 Touring Cars are not particularly happy with the one sided public spat and wouldnít blame them if they have no further contact or association with V8ST.

This doesnít help the current situation with Motorsport in NZ, but obviously this is what the management of V8ST want. Hard to believe previous statements made regarding resolving differences for the betterment of motorsport in NZ with that attitude.

It would be interesting to see what V8ST teams and their sponsors think about this letter.
I have to agree here, whats the point of making it public & then not letting him have the right of reply??? If there is nothing to hide and both parties seem happy to have it on Facebook, then why not at least let both parties put their versions up? Would certainly would put many of the awful rumours to bed about he said/she said...

Sorry V8ST you just lost points in my book.
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Old 12 May 2014, 06:34 (Ref:3405221)   #5
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I have to agree here, whats the point of making it public & then not letting him have the right of reply???
I have no idea what's going on here.

Are there any links or has everything been taken down?
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Old 12 May 2014, 06:55 (Ref:3405226)   #6
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I have no idea what's going on here.

Are there any links or has everything been taken down?
it was on the ST facebook page

apparently Booth has posted a reply
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Old 12 May 2014, 08:34 (Ref:3405268)   #7
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it was on the ST facebook page

apparently Booth has posted a reply
Still on their page,
HAD posted reply's , these was removed almost immediately by V8ST.
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Old 12 May 2014, 08:48 (Ref:3405271)   #8
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Thanks guys, I'll go and take look.
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Old 12 May 2014, 09:03 (Ref:3405275)   #9
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I found it, thanks.
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Old 12 May 2014, 09:29 (Ref:3405282)   #10
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this reply from Booth seems to be all over the place now..

"Open letter to V8 Supertourers" Please share this post.
Hi V8ST’s. It’s disappointing that my reply to your open letter addressed to me has been removed twice from your Facebook page.
Firstly yes I have spoken to some V8ST teams. I speak to other teams in other classes also as it’s good to keep in contact and get to know them and them me. This is what sport in all about I thought?

NZV8TC members arranged a meeting with Ray Noonan late last year in Auckland for a round table to discuss ways to move forward. We felt the discussions were good and Ray was going to come back to NZV8TC with a proposal the following week. To date we have not received anything?
We were contacted by Gary Lathrope from Motorsport & Event Operations mid February asking if we could field a grid of TL cars to support the V8ST’s on the weekend of 22-23 March (this was a new date added to the V8ST calendar after the NZGP meeting at Manfeild was confirmed). Unfortunately many of our TL Teams were on tight budgets after travelling down South and the NZGP meeting plus it was in between our Taupo round and the V8 Supercar events. We just didn’t have enough TL cars with budgets to do this extra race meeting.

I visited the V8ST race meeting in March to catch up with the V8ST’s and this was when I also spoke to Lyall Williamson to discuss possible future race meetings together. We had a productive chat and decided to continue discussions the following week at his Auckland office. We met again 2 weeks later at his office. Lyall explained to me that Bevan Trotman (who I met briefly at Lyall’s office) was working on their calendar and he would come back to me within 1 or 2 weeks. NZV8TC still hasn’t received proposal or communication from V8ST’s?

NZV8TC and MSNZ are also working on a workable 2014-15 race calendar and I’m sure most people would like to see both V8 classes race line up at some of those meetings. I seem to be the only one between the two V8 groups actively trying to get something together and now I’m contacted through the V8ST Facebook page via an “Open letter”.

This NZV8TC group that I’m Chairman for are a great bunch of people to be involved with. They don’t have endless pots of money but they are having fun. It’s also very affordable and it allows many young drivers the opportunity to further their V8 careers whether that be in a TLX, V8ST or Australian V8 Supercar.
For those who don’t know me well, in the past I’ve been involved in several other sports at either a competitor or coaching level. This include Yachting (competitive sailor and youth coach), Rugby (player and coach), BMX (rider NZ3 and North Island #1), and Motorsport (Pre65, Targa, OSCAR, GT, North Island Endurance racing + NZV8’s). I was not involved with any of the Bull@#$T that happened in the past and those who do know me over many years of Motorsport know I only want what’s good for the future of V8 racing in NZ.

I look forward in further discussions with the V8ST in the very near future.
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Old 12 May 2014, 10:22 (Ref:3405297)   #11
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this reply from Booth seems to be all over the place now..

"Open letter to V8 Supertourers" Please share this post.
Hi V8STís. Itís disappointing that my reply to your open letter addressed to me has been removed twice from your Facebook page.
Firstly yes I have spoken to some V8ST teams. I speak to other teams in other classes also as itís good to keep in contact and get to know them and them me. This is what sport in all about I thought?

NZV8TC members arranged a meeting with Ray Noonan late last year in Auckland for a round table to discuss ways to move forward. We felt the discussions were good and Ray was going to come back to NZV8TC with a proposal the following week. To date we have not received anything?
We were contacted by Gary Lathrope from Motorsport & Event Operations mid February asking if we could field a grid of TL cars to support the V8STís on the weekend of 22-23 March (this was a new date added to the V8ST calendar after the NZGP meeting at Manfeild was confirmed). Unfortunately many of our TL Teams were on tight budgets after travelling down South and the NZGP meeting plus it was in between our Taupo round and the V8 Supercar events. We just didnít have enough TL cars with budgets to do this extra race meeting.

I visited the V8ST race meeting in March to catch up with the V8STís and this was when I also spoke to Lyall Williamson to discuss possible future race meetings together. We had a productive chat and decided to continue discussions the following week at his Auckland office. We met again 2 weeks later at his office. Lyall explained to me that Bevan Trotman (who I met briefly at Lyallís office) was working on their calendar and he would come back to me within 1 or 2 weeks. NZV8TC still hasnít received proposal or communication from V8STís?

NZV8TC and MSNZ are also working on a workable 2014-15 race calendar and Iím sure most people would like to see both V8 classes race line up at some of those meetings. I seem to be the only one between the two V8 groups actively trying to get something together and now Iím contacted through the V8ST Facebook page via an ďOpen letterĒ.

This NZV8TC group that Iím Chairman for are a great bunch of people to be involved with. They donít have endless pots of money but they are having fun. Itís also very affordable and it allows many young drivers the opportunity to further their V8 careers whether that be in a TLX, V8ST or Australian V8 Supercar.
For those who donít know me well, in the past Iíve been involved in several other sports at either a competitor or coaching level. This include Yachting (competitive sailor and youth coach), Rugby (player and coach), BMX (rider NZ3 and North Island #1), and Motorsport (Pre65, Targa, OSCAR, GT, North Island Endurance racing + NZV8ís). I was not involved with any of the Bull@#$T that happened in the past and those who do know me over many years of Motorsport know I only want whatís good for the future of V8 racing in NZ.

I look forward in further discussions with the V8ST in the very near future.
Ian Booth
Director (Chairman)
Thanks for that Maxi - not really sure why that post was deleted?! Seems positive to me.
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Old 12 May 2014, 10:34 (Ref:3405300)   #12
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who knows?? maybe the answer is to boycott events. I bet egos would be put to one side.. if no one shows up to these subpar meetings. this has gone on way too long! I'm pretty sure EVERYONE is sick of it!
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Old 12 May 2014, 10:59 (Ref:3405310)   #13
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Can't say I've been to any events this year
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Old 12 May 2014, 11:06 (Ref:3405315)   #14
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well.. you're not missing much.

hell I even got free tickets to the GP from a ST team LMAO I thought that was rather amusing haha
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Old 12 May 2014, 20:06 (Ref:3405589)   #15
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Thanks for that Maxi - not really sure why that post was deleted?! Seems positive to me.
And it continues, more comments have been deleted, some of those quoting Ian's reply's.
If they havn't got the guts to accept valid responsive comments they should stop stirring the ****.
And they call themselves professional.
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