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Old 9 Jan 2015, 16:53 (Ref:3491367)   #16
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When Trans Am Lites started (Schedule TL), weren't they all Commodore 6 cylinders?
Never. VC and VK 308's
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Old 9 Jan 2015, 21:51 (Ref:3491484)   #17
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Wow. I never put 2 and 2 together that 'TL' stood for TraNZam Lites. That's very interesting.

Anyone able to find any other footage from the old days? I wonder if TVNZ has any archive footage.
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Old 10 Jan 2015, 01:39 (Ref:3491520)   #18
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Never. VC and VK 308's

Thanks. I remember helping to build Jamie ketts yellow/green TL Commodore...and for some reason thought it was a 6 cylinder. I'll put it down to old age and gravel rash...
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Old 10 Jan 2015, 02:02 (Ref:3491522)   #19
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Thanks. I remember helping to build Jamie ketts yellow/green TL Commodore...and for some reason thought it was a 6 cylinder. I'll put it down to old age and gravel rash...
186 or 202 powered ex TLs VC/H/K.. ran with the HQs.. did they not? pre the current Super 6 Saloons.
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Old 12 Jan 2015, 16:56 (Ref:3492114)   #20
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Latest Doc from NZV8 for this coming weekend

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http://nzmotorracing.co.nz/nzv8-tour...ong-field.html
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 17:25 (Ref:3493882)   #21
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Club racing at its best Yesterday at Ruapuna
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 19:30 (Ref:3493908)   #22
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you were there puke? or just stirring again?
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 21:10 (Ref:3493934)   #23
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Club racing at its best Yesterday at Ruapuna

I wouldn't know, I wasn't there.
However I can understand what you are saying.

At the moment; historic racing excepted, both the current "Tier One" and ST meetings could be described as this. Especially when compared to the days not so long ago when we had 30 plus NZV8's, and Formula Fords and 4 other subscribed classes.
Maybe even compared to the late 70's and early 80's with a dozen Formula Pacifics and a shed-load of Shellsport cars...I don't know; because it is a matter of opinion.

What it does illustrate is the fractionation of classes hasn't helped, and the sooner we start to all play on the same playing field the better. The reasons for the initial split may have been justified, but now we need to move on and use what we have. In ST we have a promotions group that could benefit all National classes, and we obviouslyt still have competitors out there who really just want to race.
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 22:21 (Ref:3493947)   #24
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you were there puke? or just stirring again?
He was there. I wasn't though, I was at HD for the Howden Ganley Festival, some brilliant racing, huge grids, spectacular cars and a helluva lof of noise, which is how we like it.

Not a huge crowd compared to last year I'm told but they may get better numbers this weekend (or not).

There was a demo by a number of cars there (sorry I'm off topic) but there was an insane little mid-engine Peugeot 207 rally car (with Renault engine!) built from the ground up by a young Kiwi lad from Coromandel - there's an article on it and him here http://www.motorequipmentnews.co.nz/...s-rally-rocket

Very impressive feat for one so young - reminds me a bit of John Britten!

Don't know in which rally class you could compete with it though...?
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 23:37 (Ref:3493962)   #25
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I thought the numbers were pretty good at HD Friday and Saturday. (I wasn't there Sunday) By Friday 10am there were more spectators there than at any televised top level (sic) meeting of recent times.

The big giveaway on TV is whether or not there are spectators on turn 3 (over the hill) where the unobstructed view is of one of the best corners anywhere for spectators.
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 23:44 (Ref:3493964)   #26
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Well the car park was pretty full, I don't think Sunday numbers matched those for the Ferrari fest last year but I was away so didn't make that one unfortunately. Great to see the 92 Berger Ferrari (and the 3-seater Arrows) ripping around the track though, they sounded sensational!
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 23:44 (Ref:3493965)   #27
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you were there puke? or just stirring again?
Maxi, I was there along with the other Max 1000 Spectators.
The Toyota of Bargwanna had more than a second on Ross so after a Lap or so it was all over. I still cant seem to get my head around the cars forming on the grid in Separate Classes even if TL cars were faster than several TLX cars.

I only watched the First 2 races, that was enough and only the first few laps anyway. The cars were so spread out it looked like a test session.

I was told over the Weekend that the Toyota's had about 30 more BHP than before, and if they didn't get that wee gift they were going to pull the Plug. Maybe NR is already at the limit on the Nissan.
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Old 18 Jan 2015, 23:57 (Ref:3493970)   #28
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I wouldn't know, I wasn't there.
However I can understand what you are saying.

At the moment; historic racing excepted, both the current "Tier One" and ST meetings could be described as this. Especially when compared to the days not so long ago when we had 30 plus NZV8's, and Formula Fords and 4 other subscribed classes.
Maybe even compared to the late 70's and early 80's with a dozen Formula Pacifics and a shed-load of Shellsport cars...I don't know; because it is a matter of opinion.

What it does illustrate is the fractionation of classes hasn't helped, and the sooner we start to all play on the same playing field the better. The reasons for the initial split may have been justified, but now we need to move on and use what we have. In ST we have a promotions group that could benefit all National classes, and we obviouslyt still have competitors out there who really just want to race.
It was nice with only 6/8 Classes 9 3/4 hours between our races, and it was all over by 4pm, but very little Buzz from when I have been involved in the Past. I am glad I didn't pay to get in, enjoyed what I was there for, my 12 year old loved the whole weekend, away racing with Dad and we were both home safely in the North Island by 9pm.

The TRS was ok, I come from a Single Seater back ground so enjoy that sort of thing.
The NZV8 was very bad, they (Ross and Bargwanna) need to take up BNT V8ST offer and go and race with them, but can't see that happening anyway, way battle over 12th place.
The lack of any Spectators must be a very major concern, at a so called major meeting. Be interesting to see what if any Official Numbers come out, but my pick would be under 1000, if not half that.
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 00:15 (Ref:3493972)   #29
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I kept an eye on everything this weekend thanks to Race Monitor. I was/am surprised that there has been no chat about TRS from the weekend just gone. Some of our kiwis did reasonably well from what I can tell, and I would have thought there would have been some discussion about the new car....but there you go.

Does anyone (Nigel??) know when the TRS races will be screened? I am assuming it will be on Sky, but I can't find anything yet.

From a TLX perspective, Bargs Camry must have been a rocket compared to the other 4. There was around 4-5 seconds covering the TLX's for qually. Maybe those cars don't have the setup brains that Bargs and his crew has. Obliterated would be the word I would use. But I still think that getting into the 25's for qually is pretty good. I cant for the life of me find any qually times for ST as the new website does not seem to have a decent archive, but can anyone remember what the top ST time was at Ruapuna in times gone by?

Anyway, weather seemed to be very dry from the TRS clips on both Tv1 and Tv3 (yes, both news programs actually did a little bit on them ), so dust would not have been a nice thing to deal with.

So Puke, you reckon there was only a 1000 or so spectators there? If so that is disappointing because, all the V8 stuff to one side for a moment, the TRS is the top open wheeler class we have and I would have thought that alone would have bought out a few thou'

A question for the NZV8 fans on here. I saw the results from R3 and it looked like a TLX (Bargs) and then 2 TL's. So does that mean that the podium would represent that, or do they have a separate podium for both classes that race within the same race?

Also, maybe the mods should move this discussion into the NZV8 thread as this thread was about the older NZ Touring Cars, not the current NZV8TC.

Hope your all well and handling the heat....crikey its hot today
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 00:25 (Ref:3493975)   #30
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The NZV8 was very bad, they (Ross and Bargwanna) need to take up BNT V8ST offer and go and race with them.
Well, if the dribble that I heard on Track Torques website yesterday between the websites owner (don't know his name sorry) and Ian Booth is to be believed, it is supposed to be the other way around!! I went to check the website just before to post a link to the interview, but its either been removed or my PC just wont have a bar of it. Ian did say a lot of things 'for the record' in this interview, so if it has been removed it could be because of some of the things he said.
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