Driver Ricciardo - Page 5

JeremySmith · 15 Dec 2011, 02:37 (Ref:3000023)

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Originally Posted by Charlex

Jeremy, strider, in italian it is pronounced "Ricchiardo", with the double c lasting longer...

There you are thank you...

Marbot · 15 Dec 2011, 10:33 (Ref:3000127)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

There you are thank you...

That's how it is pronounced in Italian, it's just that he doesn't pronounce it like that.

strider · 15 Dec 2011, 23:52 (Ref:3000522)

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Originally Posted by Charlex

Jeremy, strider, in italian it is pronounced "Ricchiardo", with the double c lasting longer...

Interesting. I have a friend whose wife is Italian and teaches the language over here in the UK. Basically, she agrees with you, but might agree with him that the 'i; if not silent is kind of merged.

Then, of course we have the question of Rubens' surname. When he was living in Cambridge I discussed this with a Brazilian friend of his who was sharing his house and went on to be British F3 champion. He was adamant that the last two syllables should pronounced in the same way as 'cello' in English.

I think Rubens himself gave up when he went to drive for Ferrari, because the 'ch' would be hard in Italian and thus it has remained.

Sorry for wandering off-topic.

**Bononi** · 16 Dec 2011, 00:06 (Ref:3000532)

We can call them Rubens and Daniel.

strider · 16 Dec 2011, 00:28 (Ref:3000545)

That would be much simpler.

**Bononi** · 16 Dec 2011, 00:42 (Ref:3000554)

Oh and here (TV, everywhere) we always pronounce "kello" (i guess like in italian)

**Born Racer** · 16 Dec 2011, 16:13 (Ref:3000855)

Yes, as touched on above, the Italian pronunciation is Reech-ardo. The two vowels make a single sound. You often hear the first bit of Fabrizio Giovanardi's name here pronounced 'Gee-o', when it is just 'Jo' (I am a language teacher).

Clive Brown · 16 Dec 2011, 16:25 (Ref:3000863)

In English, the name is probably most accurately translated as 'Just another Aussie loser'.

Wake me up when he wins something in F1, why doncha?

Surely the leading Aussie in International motorsports is Marcus Ambrose....

gts300 · 17 Dec 2011, 00:07 (Ref:3001048)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

Marcus Ambrose

Marcos

Better that I leave it at that.

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N.A-D.R · 17 Dec 2011, 00:33 (Ref:3001054)

not sure if that was a troll or...

St00ge · 19 Dec 2011, 01:31 (Ref:3001697)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

In English, the name is probably most accurately translated as 'Just another Aussie loser'.

Wake me up when he wins something in F1, why doncha?

Surely the leading Aussie in International motorsports is Marcus Ambrose....

Well in Australia we use the name "clive brown" as a euphemism for having a **** "Just ducking out to drop off the Clive Browns, be back in 5"

St00ge · 19 Dec 2011, 09:11 (Ref:3001785)

was in jest to all those taking it too seriously

JeremySmith · 20 Dec 2011, 02:17 (Ref:3002095)

The fact that we have two Australian drivers in F1 is fantastic considering the small population, maybe you should be celebrating this point ?

Mr V · 20 Dec 2011, 06:19 (Ref:3002115)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The fact that we have two Australian drivers in F1 is fantastic considering the small population, maybe you should be celebrating this point ?

Not as impressive as Finland having 2 F1 drivers (next year) with their small population (less than 1/4 of Australia's!!)

St00ge · 20 Dec 2011, 07:14 (Ref:3002121)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The fact that we have two Australian drivers in F1 is fantastic considering the small population, maybe you should be celebrating this point ?

yeah whatever

DAVID PATERSON · 20 Dec 2011, 07:24 (Ref:3002123)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The fact that we have two Australian drivers in F1 is fantastic considering the small population, maybe you should be celebrating this point ?

Spot on Jeremy, well said and kudos to Finland too.

HDTVKSS · 20 Dec 2011, 20:11 (Ref:3002404)

besides, 2X MotoGPchampion Casey Stoner would be the leading Aussie on the international stage at the moment....

JeremySmith · 21 Dec 2011, 00:30 (Ref:3002491)

Not to get off the subject but he drove a V8 Supercar recently, and his times were really impressive..

JeremySmith · 21 Dec 2011, 00:37 (Ref:3002493)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Not as impressive as Finland having 2 F1 drivers (next year) with their small population (less than 1/4 of Australia's!!)

Yes that is quite something I agree...

dsg · 21 Dec 2011, 02:11 (Ref:3002515)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Not as impressive as Finland having 2 F1 drivers (next year) with their small population (less than 1/4 of Australia's!!)

I think it is safe to say Finland has a much larger motorsport culture but the number of world class drivers they produce, particularly in rallying is very impressive. Some of my favourite drivers, (Henri Toivonen in particular) come from that neck of the woods.

Still 2 drivers from Australia is impressive.

N.A-D.R · 22 Dec 2011, 09:32 (Ref:3003073)

There is an answer to why there has hardly been any Australians, nor New Zealanders over the past years, and it's quite simply, not enough backing - sponsorship. Since Australia and New Zealand is so far away from Europe it requires a lot of money to just move over there and begin your european career, and with no serious backers that's why you see so many young talents pack up and return or go to America after 2 or 3 seasons. There is no doubt the likes of Ricciardo would never of even reached Formula Renault 3.5 or possibly even BF3 without Red Bull picking him up. They can't even afford to be in race winning teams (Ricciardo for example raced for RP Motorsport in RF Italia and an average team in FBMW Asia), which is why you don't see many winning in categories. It's quite sad but it's reality. Richie Stanaway and Mitch Evens for New Zealand both are extremely talented and have had pretty good backing so far. Evens has the Mark Webber tie up and Stanaway has good backing so far it seems, but don't be surprised if they can't make that next step due to money reasons, and end up in V8 Supercars or in America. In this case i think Mitch Evens will crack F1 he seems special so far from what I've seen, but I think Richie will struggle unless he gets picked up by someone his money won't keep him progressing for much longer. It's so essential these days.

That's why it's flooded with Europeans. It's in your backyard and there is such big motorsport interest. Plus can't hide the fact they're good drivers anyway. But i think you can see what i'm getting at here.

**bella** · 22 Dec 2011, 11:53 (Ref:3003146)

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Originally Posted by N.A-D.R

There is an answer to why there has hardly been any Australians, nor New Zealanders over the past years, and it's quite simply, not enough backing - sponsorship. Since Australia and New Zealand is so far away from Europe it requires a lot of money to just move over there and begin your european career, and with no serious backers that's why you see so many young talents pack up and return or go to America after 2 or 3 seasons.

ok, but it's the same initial cost for the brazilians and south americans, the japanese, the asians, the south africans, the finnish... at least aussie and kiwi drivers speak the language and the culture isn't much different!

i get that there's not much cash flying around australia for motorsports... so what do the sons of business owners do with their spare time in australia? where do australian businesses invest their sponsorship money, it can't just be the v8s? are australian businesses less successful than their european counterparts?

N.A-D.R · 23 Dec 2011, 02:59 (Ref:3003438)

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Originally Posted by bella

ok, but it's the same initial cost for the brazilians and south americans, the japanese, the asians, the south africans, the finnish... at least aussie and kiwi drivers speak the language and the culture isn't much different!

i get that there's not much cash flying around australia for motorsports... so what do the sons of business owners do with their spare time in australia? where do australian businesses invest their sponsorship money, it can't just be the v8s? are australian businesses less successful than their european counterparts?

Motorsport isn't big enough in Australia, well compared to Australia's favourite sports. We are much more interested in AFL, Rugby, and behind them is Cricket, and then another step would be Soccer and Motorsport. I see those other nations as u named (i assume) have a much bigger interest in motorsport than Australia does. V8's is popular but nothing like Rugby, AFL, Cricket brings to the table. Motorsport is definitely growing in numbers here though thanks to our internationals doing well, Webber, Casey, Ambrose ect. Ricciardo can bring it to another level if he manages to be able to win the championship in the future. All Aussies need is another Casey in F1 and at the moment Ricciardo is our best chance. I can't see Webber doing it.

Mr V · 23 Dec 2011, 08:25 (Ref:3003470)

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Originally Posted by N.A-D.R

Ricciardo can bring it to another level if he manages to be able to win the championship in the future. All Aussies need is another Casey in F1 and at the moment Ricciardo is our best chance.

Can't see the intrest in motorsport progressing much in Oz then

**bella** · 23 Dec 2011, 10:28 (Ref:3003499)

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Originally Posted by N.A-D.R

All Aussies need is another Casey in F1 and at the moment Ricciardo is our best chance. I can't see Webber doing it.

what do you think it is about webber that hasn't captured the national imagination? do you think it would take a multi-talented uber-marketable jaime alguersuari type to do it, or is it just someone the young can relate to?

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