Bell's Banter 2021

[Gerard C]

Yes, seems he was so much deeply involved in Le Mans it was too much for him. Many real but unwanted crashes, a blown out budget, wanting to stick to the reality costs tons. And the tiny action cals were to be discovered. I think you can watch Le Mans 71 on Youtube.
Grand Prix was the first of this kind, big budget, expensive and international stars, I think it remains unmatched.

[Gerard C]

This extract looks somewhat outdated, does it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsJ8aYc7AHM

[John Elwin]

I'm tempted to buy a record player so that I can listen to my LP of '66 Le Mans (the actual race), not having heard it for about 50 years.

In complete contrast I've also got an equally old record of the Festiniog Railway!

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

The last one is worth imo. I remember you like to spot hidden "special effects" , FX in good french, and if you like to spot strange things, have a look to Grand Prix and try to find the real F1's. Not many. They mainly used FJ's, delta must remember.

I was an extra in that film at Brands Hatch with a load of mates in the crowd and remember looking at the cars with their wired on V8 exhaust manifolds and skinny tyres

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Saw a TV program recently called " Steve McQueen , the lost Film ".

Very interesting about the filming of "Grand Prix " & a Steve McQueen F1 film at the same time , but the McQueen film never got finished .

I watched that myself last night. I was sort of aware of it but not the story behind it not happening. Some great footage in it. I enjoyed it.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

I'm tempted to buy a record player so that I can listen to my LP of '66 Le Mans (the actual race), not having heard it for about 50 years.

In complete contrast I've also got an equally old record of the Festiniog Railway!

Save yourself the purchase John..... someone has kindly uploaded a digital remaster copy of it to 'social media'.

The full LP, all 45 minutes of it. (You dont even have to be a facething member..... Im not and I just managed to watch it.... yes watched is the word as the video has the original sound track with many b/w and colour photos of the event on screen.)
Photos are from 'the Henry Ford Collection'

https://www.facebook.com/gt350lady/v...1981383693827/

Edit: Cant help you with Festiniog Railway though.

2nd edit: Maybe I can re the railway! Settle for a 1970's 10 minute 35mm home movie of the Ffestiniog Railway? Albeit with a rather strange soundtrack
https://youtu.be/bKIadddSQsE

[Gerard C]

Nothing with seagulls, EB? It might help for at least a duo, we have my mother in law at home… Actually…

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

I'm tempted to buy a record player so that I can listen to my LP of '66 Le Mans (the actual race), not having heard it for about 50 years.

In complete contrast I've also got an equally old record of the Festiniog Railway!

I have an album called "The Sound of Grand Prix" which is exactly that - F1 cars at full chat on circuits of the world. They all sound different of course, unlike today. I think it was released on the back of the film frenzy. We had an early stereo record player as I distinctly remember hearing the cars go from one speaker to the other. Haven't listened to it for at least forty years, I sense a lockdown exploration of the attic.

I remember being taken to the film when it was released, I would have been five by the time it reached Penzance.

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[Gerard C]

I remember visiting Renault Sport facilities. We were explained how to spy another team, with a simple recorder, located in the pit wall area. For an trained hear, easy to guess the max revs and average power. A double clutch gearbox too… Happy days.

[MGDavid]

Is it the right time to introduce Peter Ustinov's Grand Prix of Gibraltar to the thread?

Max - do you want to borrow it?

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by E.B

Save yourself the purchase John..... someone has kindly uploaded a digital remaster copy of it to 'social media'.

The full LP, all 45 minutes of it. (You dont even have to be a facething member..... Im not and I just managed to watch it.... yes watched is the word as the video has the original sound track with many b/w and colour photos of the event on screen.)
Photos are from 'the Henry Ford Collection'

https://www.facebook.com/gt350lady/v...1981383693827/

Edit: Cant help you with Festiniog Railway though.

2nd edit: Maybe I can re the railway! Settle for a 1970's 10 minute 35mm home movie of the Ffestiniog Railway? Albeit with a rather strange soundtrack
https://youtu.be/bKIadddSQsE

Thanks E.B. I'll have a look later when I have a moment. I don't do social media of any sort, so hopefully I will find it!

Have you got the Team Lotus record as well?

[E.B]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Thanks E.B. I'll have a look later when I have a moment. I don't do social media of any sort, so hopefully I will find it!

Have you got the Team Lotus record as well?

I dont do any social media either.... I did not have to sign up or register/log in for anything, I just clicked on the same link I posted and voila. The magic of the interweb.

Re the Lotus record I dont have it but I assume you mean The Champion / Workin' al'nighter record by Team Lotus in 1973.... a bit of info and pics of it but no soundtrack unfortunately. Written produced and arranged by then Team Lotus member, Luke Watson.
http://www.45cat.com/record/spd100l

Edit: I happened to find the Champions (the A side of the record) on youtube, but cant find the B side Workin al'nighter.
https://youtu.be/FSHSJnT_osY

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by E.B

I dont do any social media either.... I did not have to sign up or register/log in for anything, I just clicked on the same link I posted and voila. The magic of the interweb.

Re the Lotus record I dont have it but I assume you mean The Champion / Workin' al'nighter record by Team Lotus in 1973.... a bit of info and pics of it but no soundtrack unfortunately. Written produced and arranged by then Team Lotus member, Luke Watson.
http://www.45cat.com/record/spd100l

Edit: I happened to find the Champions (the A side of the record) on youtube, but cant find the B side Workin al'nighter.
https://youtu.be/FSHSJnT_osY

I have the record. I knew Luke Watson well; he was actually the Team Lotus buyer but also quite an accomplished musician.

An amusing story about Luke - he was in the habit of having a packet of biscuits in the draw of his desk but they often disappeared if the lads were working late. Luke got a bit fed up with this, especially as nobody would admit to it, so one day he bought a packet of chocolate bourbons & laboriously replaced the fillings with laxative chocolate. Naturally, they all disappeared one night! Again no-one would own up to it but it never happened again! We had a pretty good idea who it was, something that was more or less confirmed at a dinner many years later.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

I don't do social media of any sort

10-Tenths is social media

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

Luckily, things have moved on since then, and compounds in the statins have been changed over the years. But studies have definitely established, using large control groups, that certain people placed on a statin will suffer side effects even when they are in the placebo group. There just seems to be some "switch" that is turned on in certain minds when they are supposed to be taking a statin.

The placebo effect is an interesting one and I did think of this later, however it never crossed my mind when I started taking them and I do like to think I wouldn't be psychologically affected by these things but anything is possible.
On the other hand due to arthritis, I started wearing a copper bracelet last year which seems to work. A lot of people say it's an old wives tale, although one that must date back centuries as they've been used for hundreds of years. My answer is old wives tale or placebo effect or not, it seems to work, my hands and fingers don't ache as much and I can now bend my fingers whereas before I wore it sometimes I couldn't even pick a cup up without dropping it

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

Is it the right time to introduce Peter Ustinov's Grand Prix of Gibraltar to the thread?

Max - do you want to borrow it?

If I have done this right , this might be the one .

https://youtu.be/mfchbxFoaOY

[bauble]

I couldn't even pick a cup up without dropping it

Must have been a hoot down at the local, Tim.

[bauble]

Had my Tizer jab today, about an hour ago, so far so good. The jab itself is very brief, and for me painless. After establishing your identity they ask a few questions, about allergic reactions, previous vaccinations, had I been part of a Covid vaccine trial, and was I taking any relevant medication. No to all that and JAB. One is then held captive for 15 minutes to check for immediate problems, before being released into the community again. Possible side effects include a rise in temperature for a couple of days, soreness in the arm, and a fever. If these persist more than two days contact your GP.
I was due to be done on Sunday, but managed to re-arrange for Judy and I to be done together today.
I will let you know if I develop any symptoms.

Interestingly the Doc had a tray of needles on her desk from which she used, so the low temperature storage seems to be for long term safety.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

I have the record. I knew Luke Watson well; he was actually the Team Lotus buyer but also quite an accomplished musician.

An amusing story about Luke - he was in the habit of having a packet of biscuits in the draw of his desk but they often disappeared if the lads were working late. Luke got a bit fed up with this, especially as nobody would admit to it, so one day he bought a packet of chocolate bourbons & laboriously replaced the fillings with laxative chocolate. Naturally, they all disappeared one night! Again no-one would own up to it but it never happened again! We had a pretty good idea who it was, something that was more or less confirmed at a dinner many years later.

Interesting story. I had heard about that song before and expected it to be cringeworthy, as songs by sports people tend to be, but it’s actually it’s not bad. Certainly better than some football songs go. Isn’t the B side supposed to be just mechanics working on the car or something similar?

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

On the other hand due to arthritis, I started wearing a copper bracelet last year which seems to work. A lot of people say it's an old wives tale, although one that must date back centuries as they've been used for hundreds of years. My answer is old wives tale or placebo effect or not, it seems to work, my hands and fingers don't ache as much and I can now bend my fingers whereas before I wore it sometimes I couldn't even pick a cup up without dropping it

Talking about hands and arthritis ...

It could be a coincidence but around the time of the first lockdown I have been reading advice about not eating tomatoes if one needed some arthritis respite.

I had ignored it for a while but was seriously considering trying it out and the first lockdown meant the regular trips to the local supermarket for supplies of fresh tiddly tomatoes was frowned upon by management. Also I was not keen to stand in a queue for hours. So I took the opportunity to try out abstinence.

It seems there is something in it. Stiffness is still there - especially after hours on a keyboard. But the regular stabbing pains that seemed to have no cause have almost completely vanished and were greatly minimised almost immediately.

There again, I had also started to included a little more turmeric in foods to make them more interesting (deep frowns from management due to the risk of staining everything yellow) and turmeric is, supposedly, meant to be useful for "treating" arthritis. However I think the medical tests involved mice or rats and turmeric delivered in a relatively industrial scale so I doubt my use does anything more than add some flavouring.

Doubtless the real influence has been something else of which I am not aware.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by grantp

Talking about hands and arthritis ...

It could be a coincidence but around the time of the first lockdown I have been reading advice about not eating tomatoes if one needed some arthritis respite.

I had ignored it for a while but was seriously considering trying it out and the first lockdown meant the regular trips to the local supermarket for supplies of fresh tiddly tomatoes was frowned upon by management. Also I was not keen to stand in a queue for hours. So I took the opportunity to try out abstinence.

It seems there is something in it. Stiffness is still there - especially after hours on a keyboard. But the regular stabbing pains that seemed to have no cause have almost completely vanished and were greatly minimised almost immediately.

There again, I had also started to included a little more turmeric in foods to make them more interesting (deep frowns from management due to the risk of staining everything yellow) and turmeric is, supposedly, meant to be useful for "treating" arthritis. However I think the medical tests involved mice or rats and turmeric delivered in a relatively industrial scale so I doubt my use does anything more than add some flavouring.

Doubtless the real influence has been something else of which I am not aware.

My late brother had a bit of a thing about tomatoes causing problems with his joints. True or not, I don't know.

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by grantp

Talking about hands and arthritis ...

It could be a coincidence but around the time of the first lockdown I have been reading advice about not eating tomatoes if one needed some arthritis respite.

I had ignored it for a while but was seriously considering trying it out and the first lockdown meant the regular trips to the local supermarket for supplies of fresh tiddly tomatoes was frowned upon by management. Also I was not keen to stand in a queue for hours. So I took the opportunity to try out abstinence.

It seems there is something in it. Stiffness is still there - especially after hours on a keyboard. But the regular stabbing pains that seemed to have no cause have almost completely vanished and were greatly minimised almost immediately.

There again, I had also started to included a little more turmeric in foods to make them more interesting (deep frowns from management due to the risk of staining everything yellow) and turmeric is, supposedly, meant to be useful for "treating" arthritis. However I think the medical tests involved mice or rats and turmeric delivered in a relatively industrial scale so I doubt my use does anything more than add some flavouring.

Doubtless the real influence has been something else of which I am not aware.

An interesting read Grant. Mrs V has suffered with arthritis for the past 40 years (first diagnosed when she was 18) and although she doesn't eat dozens of the things on a daily basis, she does enjoy a tomato. I've recently discovered that she has started taking turmeric tablets (not sure why this was a 'secret' but they can be strange at times...) which she's bought on-line as I know it's supposed to have a number of health benefits. I'll see if I can trade the information regarding the nasty effects of tomatoes in return for feedback on the effects of the turmeric. If there is any tangible improvement I will let you know.

[andy97]

Originally Posted by grantp

Talking about hands and arthritis ...

It could be a coincidence but around the time of the first lockdown I have been reading advice about not eating tomatoes if one needed some arthritis respite.

I had ignored it for a while but was seriously considering trying it out and the first lockdown meant the regular trips to the local supermarket for supplies of fresh tiddly tomatoes was frowned upon by management. Also I was not keen to stand in a queue for hours. So I took the opportunity to try out abstinence.

It seems there is something in it. Stiffness is still there - especially after hours on a keyboard. But the regular stabbing pains that seemed to have no cause have almost completely vanished and were greatly minimised almost immediately.

There again, I had also started to included a little more turmeric in foods to make them more interesting (deep frowns from management due to the risk of staining everything yellow) and turmeric is, supposedly, meant to be useful for "treating" arthritis. However I think the medical tests involved mice or rats and turmeric delivered in a relatively industrial scale so I doubt my use does anything more than add some flavouring.

Doubtless the real influence has been something else of which I am not aware.

On the flip side istr a mate of mine telling me that he was advised to eat tomatoes and tomatoes soup regularly to help keep prostrate cancer at bay

[bauble]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

An interesting read Grant. Mrs V has suffered with arthritis for the past 40 years (first diagnosed when she was 18) and although she doesn't eat dozens of the things on a daily basis, she does enjoy a tomato. I've recently discovered that she has started taking turmeric tablets (not sure why this was a 'secret' but they can be strange at times...) which she's bought on-line as I know it's supposed to have a number of health benefits. I'll see if I can trade the information regarding the nasty effects of tomatoes in return for feedback on the effects of the turmeric. If there is any tangible improvement I will let you know.

Not the only thing the poor woman has suffered from for many years.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by bauble

Not the only thing the poor woman has suffered from for many years.

She does enjoy a tomato is the answer but its a secret, you killjoy!