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Old 26 Apr 2018, 21:08 (Ref:3817564)   #1
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Drink Competition Safety Car?

I see the idea being talked about on the interweb,when the race is boring bring out the safety car and bunch them up.
Good idea or a step to far too 'artificalise' a race?.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 22:51 (Ref:3817579)   #2
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Looking at the voting on the Rate the Race thread for the Chinese GP, you would have to say that your safety car proposal is excellent.
Better at shaking up the race than any other method, and popular apparently.

Random number generator for the lap on which a safety car intervention will take place, and a second dip for where in the field the car will insert itself.
E.G. Lap 20 position 5.

Apparently what is wanted according to the rating of the Chinese GP.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 23:23 (Ref:3817582)   #3
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Just shows how far Formula 1 has fallen.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 23:33 (Ref:3817584)   #4
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E.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Eeeek. F1 gets more like NASCAR every day, with their 'competition yellow' at a fixed lap number.

All a bit too contrived for me when it goes that far, although I have to admit the yellow spiced up a potential borefest in China.
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 00:25 (Ref:3817590)   #5
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Clearly the answer is to place boxes randomly on the track that drivers can run over. Each box has some type of power up like a Koopa shell, Banana peel, etc. that drivers can use during the race. Everyone has an equal chance. Nothing artificial at all.

Itís a proven solution and I am puzzled as to why they havenít tried it yet.

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Old 27 Apr 2018, 05:05 (Ref:3817631)   #6
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Surely there's a revenue stream here? Fans can call a premium rate number during the race to decide when the safety car/banana peel/rockets are deployed.

There is precedent of course, thanks to Formula E fan boost.

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Old 27 Apr 2018, 05:42 (Ref:3817632)   #7
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E.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridE.B should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Remember when Bernie suggested random water sprinklers many moons ago....
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 06:59 (Ref:3817639)   #8
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Remember when Bernie suggested random water sprinklers many moons ago....
Is that really moons, or should it be moans?
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 10:10 (Ref:3817679)   #9
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It's a fine idea...if you don't want to be a serious motorsport.

That's why BTCC can do reverse grid, drawing numbers out of a hat. It's embraced the fact that it really isn't that serious a series anymore (although I'm sure it is to the competitors). It's kinda like a comedy act. And that's fine. So it depends on what they want F1 to be.

Same goes for Formula E. Super-duper serious sport...where the driver who gets the most hashtag twitter fanboost points gets extra power. Decide what tone you want the series to be - you can't have it all ways.
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 12:19 (Ref:3817711)   #10
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No way, we just need less aero. Introducing a competition SC is not F1. If it happens all the time, it will lose the novelty of it being a potential race changer. They should though get rid of the free pass rule
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 12:26 (Ref:3817713)   #11
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 18:01 (Ref:3817766)   #12
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Looking at the voting on the Rate the Race thread for the Chinese GP, you would have to say that your safety car proposal is excellent.
Better at shaking up the race than any other method, and popular apparently.

Random number generator for the lap on which a safety car intervention will take place, and a second dip for where in the field the car will insert itself.
E.G. Lap 20 position 5.

Apparently what is wanted according to the rating of the Chinese GP.
I get your point, but i donít think there is a contradiction.

I am against this suggestion. If F1 is to remain a sport then it should be allowed that a race can develop in a boring manner naturally where a team and driver can dominate becaus they are doing a better job. However if required, for normal random reasons, a SC is required I am not going to turn it off at that point. I am also going to enjoy it if it becomes interesting.

The issue here is whether you purposely and artificially cause the interest or if it is random.

FWIW I donít mind a competition in NASCAR. Is that contradictory too? No, I expect different things from that series.
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 18:55 (Ref:3817776)   #13
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It's a bad idea, they use it in NASCAR and on occasion in IndyCar. It will be seen as another artificial gimmick, rather than actually dealing with issues F1 faces.
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 19:04 (Ref:3817778)   #14
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Brilliant idea, but only when positions one and two pass the pit entry..
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Old 27 Apr 2018, 21:30 (Ref:3817799)   #15
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What about drawing grid positions out of a hat that way you should get away from the fastest cars always being at the front of the grid and the engineers would have to design cars that can overtake.
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