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Old 18 Dec 2005, 14:49 (Ref:1486099)   #1
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Mr Cigar to start own team ?

If the conditions are right,Dave Richards could be heading our way again.http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34730
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 14:59 (Ref:1486100)   #2
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Good news.

Prodrive and David Richards are a success story of British motorsport and would be a very welcome addition to F1
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 15:11 (Ref:1486103)   #3
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 15:19 (Ref:1486105)   #4
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I think he's right about the cost part though.Even teams like Ferrari are going to find it difficult to keep up with the big guys.Another poor year for Ferrari will see to that.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 15:26 (Ref:1486109)   #5
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Indeed would be great news IMO and something that could well happen. Prodrive has been making Mr Richards a good ammount of money recently I would imagine both with his sportscar programmes and WRC programmes alike.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1486133)   #6
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Prodrive and David Richards are a success story of British motorsport and would be a very welcome addition to F1

Pffft! We have had David Richards in f1 before and I don't think it was a success story.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:16 (Ref:1486138)   #7
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Maybe not but Prodrive ARE a success story. Takes a team, not one man.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:18 (Ref:1486139)   #8
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Pffft! We have had David Richards in f1 before and I don't think it was a success story.

BAR achieved their best ever results on David's watch.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1486141)   #9
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BAR achieved their best ever results on David's watch.
You mean the year he was sacked .
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:23 (Ref:1486143)   #10
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Good I hope he does come back. Formula1 needs people like David Richards.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:34 (Ref:1486149)   #11
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BAR achieved their best ever results on David's watch.
Though he didn't really help with Benetton though did he?
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 17:49 (Ref:1486153)   #12
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I thought he was in the middle of enacting a pretty impressive turn around with Benetton, and was suprised when they dumped him so soon.

However, I read quite a lot about him not doing well there, so, perhaps, I have a poor recollection of it all (the human mind can greatly alter actual events, as it were).
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 19:16 (Ref:1486179)   #13
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My recollection is the same as yours, Dutton.

David Richards has never been fired from an F1 team.

At Benetton, he presented a restructuring plan to the Benetton family - but they were looking to sell the team rather than invest - so David resigned.

At BAR, Prodrive had been brought in on a management contract and achieved their aims.

If Richards was sacked, his right hand man from Prodrive, Nick Fry, would hardly have been put in charge!
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 19:30 (Ref:1486186)   #14
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David Richards is a good person which sticks out in the politics of F1.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 20:03 (Ref:1486196)   #15
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Though he didn't really help with Benetton though did he?
As I understand it David Richards put forward exactly the same five year plan to Rocco Benetton as he did with Honda and B.A.T. The difference was that Benetton wasn't interested (Thought he knew best when he should have stuck to selling jumpers) where as Honda and B.A.T. were interested.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 20:29 (Ref:1486214)   #16
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David Richards has never been fired from an F1 team.
According to ITV, he was forced out of BAR...

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If Richards was sacked, his right hand man from Prodrive, Nick Fry, would hardly have been put in charge!
Yeah exactly. Honda's beef was not directed toward Prodrive but toward D. Richards' himself. He was not only fired (sorry, "forced out") because of Buttongate I. I know from a source within the team that the awful working atmosphere within the team improved tremenduously after he left. Honda had enough of the bad press his political games would drag them into.

(BTW: Please also bear in mind that the illegal double-tank system was introduced/allowed at BAR in 2004 while he was the boss.)
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 20:39 (Ref:1486217)   #17
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The double tank was not illegal - it was simply not having enough fuel on board which made the car underweight and thus illegal.

I stand by my view that Richards was not sacked.

Would it be fair to say that your assessment of him is based around his removal of the team's former number one driver?
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 21:40 (Ref:1486242)   #18
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The double tank was not illegal - it was simply not having enough fuel on board which made the car underweight and thus illegal
This is what I call being cute. The practice you are describing was already being used in 2004.


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I would have had that post laminated if you hadn't

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Would it be fair to say that your assessment of him is based around his removal of the team's former number one driver?
In part "yes". Your raising it is the usual cheap shot I get when my opponent runs out of ammunitions. I must say it still hurts a bit.
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Old 18 Dec 2005, 22:17 (Ref:1486264)   #19
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As I understant it BAR Honda were not the only team running those tanks! DR had his contract terminated early because "officially" he had achieved the results Honda were looking for a year early.
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I'd love to see a Prodrive F1 team, and have said all along, its only a matter of time until D.R. returns to the pitlane.
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Old 19 Dec 2005, 01:38 (Ref:1486321)   #21
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David Richards is a good person which sticks out in the politics of F1.
Yep, such a nice guy, with such nice things to say about everyone.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=26753

I'm sure many people in F1 are welcoming the return of such a good person.
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As I understant it BAR Honda were not the only team running those tanks! DR had his contract terminated early because "officially" he had achieved the results Honda were looking for a year early.
So what you're saying is, BAR-Honda allowed Richards to leave because he was too successful?

A rose by any other name...

Anyway, that's by the by. If Richards is serious about coming back into Formula One, Midland could do no worse than coax him to run their operation. Otherwise, if Super Aguri really is a goer, notwithstanding the Honda connections the team has, he would be a very good team principal for them.
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Old 19 Dec 2005, 03:22 (Ref:1486340)   #23
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he might like to sort out his V8 Supercar team first!
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Old 19 Dec 2005, 17:51 (Ref:1486827)   #24
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An article on Pitpass has DR taking a public poke at Fisi, JPM, Heidfeld, Pizzonia (and of course JV). For a guy who's trying a comeback, he doesn't seem to be making too many friends in the paddock.
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I'm not sure he cares how many friends he's making amongst drivers. He's a very canny businessman is Mr Richards, the catalyst behind Prodrive becoming one of the biggest names in motorsport. And I don't think he's overly bothered about how nice people think he is.

Anyway, if he does start a new team and makes a success of it, I don't think those drivers will hold his comments against him if he waves his chequebook in their direction (not that he's likely to wave more than a couple of fingers at JV...).
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