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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:13 (Ref:1091943)   #1
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New helmet for TGF???

saw this pic on f1 live

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looks lind of like the start on an Italian flag on the back side of the helmet.. any more info?
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:20 (Ref:1091948)   #2
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Sorry.

Just can't get excited enough to go looking.........
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:24 (Ref:1091956)   #3
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You have to hand it to him. He is the sort of driver that can attract as much interest over a slight change on the helmet than entire series can warrent.

A nice touch for one of his 'home' GP at Monza.
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:28 (Ref:1091962)   #4
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To me Adam, more an illustration of just where you have to go to find "noteworthy" news in F1 right now......
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:35 (Ref:1091967)   #5
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Yes you are right. The superb win by Kimi, Montoya's overtaking of Michael, the brilliance of Michael in wet qualifying, the resurgence of McLaren, the fastest road circuit race in the world are all things that are never mentioned.

It is just that more people follow F1 (for some reason) so more topics are covered. Although I am sure that colour schemes are mentioned occassionally elsewhere too.

I'm afraid I can not see why this story can be classed as a negative aspect of F1.

I obviously missed something, am I wrong to think that Senna's helmet always worked well in the JPS Lotus?
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:42 (Ref:1091971)   #6
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 13:55 (Ref:1091982)   #7
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Schumacher's used one-off helmets before and will again.

He's also changed his helmet design several times - look at his Benetton design from much of 1993 - it was quite different from his usual one.

And the world kept turning then, just as it will now!
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 18:17 (Ref:1092178)   #8
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Re: New helmet for TGF???

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saw this pic on f1 live

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/photos/...iapo_116.shtml

looks lind of like the start on an Italian flag on the back side of the helmet.. any more info?
Can you tell if it's in a larger size?
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 18:53 (Ref:1092204)   #9
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Once again the Schumacher marketing machine goes full throttle.

Michales Helmet is one of his most marketable trademarks.

When the Ferrari team wanted Michael/Rubens to change the helmet design so it was easier to tell them apart in the car Michael said "no - I'm the number 1" but then Willi Weber had a word in his ear and realised the money value in changing helmets and schumachers read helmet was born.

Subtle thing to note, the when Michaels helmet was white the crown of his helmet was blue, and Ralfs helmet was a yellow michaels with a grey crown, when michael changed to all red, Ralf changed to all yellow.

Michales done one of things with his helmet before as mentioned above.

Such as the chorme 98 japan helmet
or the USA 2000 USA flag in place of the german flag on his helmet (ralph did this too) - I also think they did this in 2001

Also in testing for the 2002 season I think both Ralf and Michael wored helmets that had half Ralf design half Michael design to show how close they are as brothers.


Other drivers have done it Coulthard recently.

I like it for a bit of one of fun, and it adds to the soap opera side of F1 now that the racing is glum apart from the odd moment.
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 18:54 (Ref:1092206)   #10
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Ayse. Do people ever stop you and your sportscar buddies and ask "Why are you so green dude?"

"Green"? Sorry, you've lost me there Wrex. I'm not green to my knowledge. Getting old, a tad too cynical and bored with with some of the things I used to love, yes, I'd accept that. What kind of a description is "green" for those who enjoy sportscar racing?

No. Never been asked that. And never met one of my buddies who's been asked that either. Actually, I think the question (as I'm probably misinterpretiung it) works far better in another direction.

Its all perception and expectation. What pooint would there be to an F1 thread without me to pour cold water on it.......
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 18:55 (Ref:1092209)   #11
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I obviously missed something, am I wrong to think that Senna's helmet always worked well in the JPS Lotus?

Absolutely not. Probably one of the best colour-schemes F1 has ever seen.
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 19:04 (Ref:1092221)   #12
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Along with Tom Pryce's in the Shadow.

darcym - I'm sure I read that the 'twin-designed' helmet for Michael and Ralf was such because it was a new model and the manufacturer only had one of them or something.
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Orange, white and green?
Oh, it's probably some old Irvine helmet.
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 19:28 (Ref:1092243)   #14
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That's clearly it - the Schuey "Tribute to Irv" celebratory helmet. What a guy, always thinking of his erstwhile team mates.

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That's clearly it - the Schuey "Tribute to Irv" celebratory helmet. What a guy, always thinking of his erstwhile team mates.



That cracked me up...
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 20:30 (Ref:1092289)   #16
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There is a story on gazzetta about it. Its a tribute to his Italian fans for all their support over the years.
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Without being controversial. Don't you think it might just be 'a tribute to his Italian fans for all their support over the years'.
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Quite neat really. With the helmet design he has, TGF could change the colour to suit the flag of the nation he's driving in. Then the whole world can feel like he's an adopted son, every nation's GP becomes a home GP, fans in every country can feel like they have a driver who can win their home GP, TGF can become a roving ambassador for the United Nations (he already is or was for UNICEF)... The marketing possibilities are endless...ummm Willi, that'll be 10% of your 20% please...

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If TGF actually wanted to do something nice, how could he achieve that?

If you don't care about Michael's change of helmet then perhaps it is better it you don't actually care.
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Absolutely not. Probably one of the best colour-schemes F1 has ever seen.
Phew, I am allowed to comment on Michael's current helmet then.
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Of course you can Adam. I actually like the scheme he has chosen and I think it is a great idea to acknowledge the support of his Italian fans.
I don't think Micheals efforts are 'cheesy' or commercially motivated in this regard, I think Schumi is really at a personal level a genuine nice-guy who's prodigious and towering talent create all sorts of resentment in some of those who don't have it. My earlier post is just a reposte to the commercial side of things that revolve around him.
Mansell made no bones about the fact that he and his wife decided at a point in time that they were going to maximise Nigels earning capacity for his remaining time in F1 and Schumi has done the same. there is no shame in that. I'd do it too.
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OK, OK, I'll get off Schuey's case. (Look, I'm even using a pally name for him instead of TGF...... ). Sure the Italian flag is a nice touch. I give him full credit for that. Shame Ferrari aren't going to deck out his car with the same full colour scheme - now that would be something worth column inches.......

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Mansell made no bones about the fact that he and his wife decided at a point in time that they were going to maximise Nigels earning capacity for his remaining time in F1 and Schumi has done the same. there is no shame in that. I'd do it too.
That's 100% fair enough too.
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