All of the surviving Super Saloons in one place.. Mission Impossible?

[HoTWire]

Big Andy, not see your SC100 before.. what do you run it in now (if anything)?

Haggispeed, thanks for a few more names, I think David Enderby's car has been converted back to a Lola : http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/phpBB2...pic.php?t=1179 .. I'll see if I can find some more about the others.

Thanks for the continued help. At the moment I'm just trying to get together a list of the cars that are still rolling (preferably under their own power), so I can then start contacting owners to get the ball rolling.

[driftwood]

the Ghia is NOT a lola S2000 its still a Ghia
the lola that had another Ghia body is the tony dickenson skoda mk3

[haggispeed]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

So the rumours of your death were greatly exaggerated, then?

Just pay the money, and I'll keep schtum about your career as a Renault 5 racer....

Well unfortunately the rumours were true for the man himself, I ended up being bequethed the marque
Renault 5 racer.... Renault 5 yes - Racer.... not so sure about that bit although it the first time I managed to get my pic in Autosport

The discussion on the Lola Ghia has been covered extensively elsewhere, David's is a Tiga and as Driftwood says is still the Karmann Ghia.
That's one Clive remembers well

[driftwood]

I have the Autoperfomance mag article of the Ghia I scanned it if you want it PM me yr email address its large files 1-2 meg each

[BILTEL]

Originally Posted by driftwood

forgot the Brodie car DOH!!
I think the late Bernie Harris had the car in the mid 80`s with Gaa fitted

i think Olding Mcmillan publishing had the ex Birrane car i have read that in 77ish AS mag and made notes will investigate tonight and keep Pie ingredients closeby just in case

I believe Mark Fowler from CTCRC has this car. Try Al Weymann he'll know.

[HoTWire]

Originally Posted by driftwood

I have the Autoperfomance mag article of the Ghia I scanned it if you want it PM me yr email address its large files 1-2 meg each

Just a quick public thank you to driftwood for the reading material sitting in my inbox That should keep me busy for a while.

Current list stands as :

Current owner - Car
1. Gregor Marshall - Old Nail
2. Joe Ward - Baby Bertha
3. Tony Hazelwood - Daf
4. Gabriel Konig - Viva
5. Tony Davies - Transpeed Firenza
6. ?? - Bill Dryden's Firenza (shell alive?? Engine suspension now in Bob Claxton's S110r)
7. John Pope - Aston Engined Magnum
8. Mike Newman - Firenza (possibly not displayable)
9. ppreciousmoggie - Mike Bennion Morris V8
10 ??(out at Goodwood) - Mick Hill's Beetle
11 ??(Being built) - Mega Bertha
12 David Howes - AMC Javelin
13 Big Andy - SC100
14 ?? - Tony Hazelwood's XJ8
15 David Enderby - Karmann Ghia
16 ?? - Ben Bowlby SC100
17 ?? - Peter Day's Fiat 500
18 ??(poss Mark Fowler ) - Brodie 3.4GA(a?) Capri

Can someone correct me either way with the Minshaw and Hazelwood Daf situation, are they the same car (could save some wasted phone calls down the line )*** Solved now *** thanks (again) driftwood.


Big Andy : how many of the cars on your list are matched to ones in that list ^^ (I guess at least 2 of the sc100s)

sc100 3
imps 2
escorts 1
daf 1
firenza 3
beetle 1
mini 2
metro 2
kitten 1
skoda 2
fiat 1
toyota 1


Any help filling in the blanks, or adding cars to the list that we know are still running (in one form or another) would be really helpful.

[driftwood]

there is only 1 Daf it is Tony h car he sold to Minshaw
Tony has the car now rebuilt looking the nuts gonads

Ginger Marshall still has his Reliant Kitten
Dave Taylor has the VW Mick Hill Beetle

[stevie m]

I'm sure Ginger Marshall still has his Kitten special saloon and there was another Kitten up here in Scotland competing in speed events but I've not seen it this year.I'd love to see all theese cars at one event,best of luck

[big andy]

Originally Posted by HoTWire

Current list stands as :

Current owner - Car
1. Gregor Marshall - Old Nail
2. Joe Ward - Baby Bertha
3. Tony Hazelwood - Daf
4. Gabriel Konig - Viva
5. Tony Davies - Transpeed Firenza
6. ?? - Bill Dryden's Firenza (shell alive?? Engine suspension now in Bob Claxton's S110r)
7. John Pope - Aston Engined Magnum
8. Mike Newman - Firenza (possibly not displayable)
9. ppreciousmoggie - Mike Bennion Morris V8
10 ??(out at Goodwood) - Mick Hill's Beetle
11 ??(Being built) - Mega Bertha
12 David Howes - AMC Javelin
13 Big Andy - SC100
14 ?? - Tony Hazelwood's XJ8
15 David Enderby - Karmann Ghia
16 ?? - Ben Bowlby SC100
17 ?? - Peter Day's Fiat 500
18 ??(poss Mark Fowler ) - Brodie 3.4GA(a?) Capri

.

hotwire
msot of the cars from my list are on your list ill put names to cars so you no whats what
andrew wilson sc100/toyota starlet
neil claxton sc100
paul samson sc100
bob claxton 110r skoda
martin brockhurst 110r skoda maguire
.............. fiat 500 now with mini engine
peter thurston 5.0 mk1 escort
dave taylor 5.7 chevy beetle
joe ward baby bertha
tony davies transpeed firenza
gregor marshall old nail
tony hazelwood daf v8
ginger marshall kitten
mary ......... maguire mini
bill richards maguire metro
rob knox maguire imp
col rooney imp
antony wilson metro
pete edwards mini

most of the people on this list myself or dave taylor spoke to with the veiw of getting the cars together for a fun/test day then maybe a few one of races

the capri that mark fowler is having built is not the ex brodie car

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by big andy

mary ......... maguire mini

Mary Grinham. The car is currently fitted with Bill Richards Arden 8 Port A series.

Bills Metro is now Duratec powered.

Pete Edwards Mini I believe is a KAD spaceframe running a 2 litre Vauxhall lump.

[driftwood]

the maguire skoda was raced by Tom Shepard twice or thrice then Maguire sold it to hillclimber sprinter Mike hands? he had 1 leg so car had hand clutch on gear lever

[big andy]

there were 2 maguire skodas made the one martin owns is not the same car as the mobile one sponsered hillclimb car

[driftwood]

there where not 2 maguire skoda cars built only 1
2 esprits many imps minis
Mobil One skoda hillclimb car rover V8 for kerr 1988/9 was Tiga Gp C2 car under body then to castle coombe mobile windscreen George douglas or phil lomas raced it then jensen erling had it but big shunt wrote it off
car now rebuilt back as c2 Tiga

[big andy]

so whats the history of the maguire skoda

[driftwood]

From memory Joyn Maguire built 1 skoda with 1300 bda? and Tom shphard worked at Maguires race dtehcar 2 or 3 times poss don GT and 1 wendy wools type special saloon race circa 1980/81
car was sold to the sprinter hillclimber with the car being run by ernie larton and had hand operated clutch on gear lever for the driver
Im sure he was mike hands?
my father bought his 1 litre Maguire which was the first Maguire Imp built that George Coghill ran in scotland

we took the Imp back to Maguires for a re jig/check out and saw the Lotus esprit GT car built ready for Roger Matthews to collect
2 years later he sold the car to my father !
he ran the car till 89 and sold it
recently the roller was for sale less eng gbox
i was tempted to buy it but i thought why tie up money in a car i cant run anywhere and it will cost me ££12k-15k to get running again
Im sentimental but not that sentimental!

[driftwood]

I nearly said earlier that there was a Maguire Traveller but thought better of it but here it is
John merediths hillclimb car with Imp engine just like Ginger marshal had but his was a steel shell car
http://www.ingliston-circuit.co.uk/p...onimps_35.html

[911thillclimber]

Sorry to butt-in:
Haggispeed:
You have email about my Lola /Ghia hillclimb car. Hope you can find it and resolve a mystery!
Graham.

[big andy]

Originally Posted by driftwood

I nearly said earlier that there was a Maguire Traveller but thought better of it but here it is
John merediths hillclimb car with Imp engine just like Ginger marshal had but his was a steel shell car
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the mini traveller was sold to john merediths by marshall jm then took it to maguire to have a new space frame made so it is kind of the same car

[driftwood]

do not believe they are the same car
The Maguire car for Meredith would have been a straight "from scratch" build car

Im sure Ginger kept the steel shel mini traveller and swapped the engine gearbox to Kitten later he made his own block to replace the Imp block in Kitten

[big andy]

marshall defeintly sold the car to jm and jm took the car to maguire thats fact not shaw the mini/imp unit was sold with car

[big andy]

this would make a interesting project
http://www.my105.com/classified.asp?id=13264

[Clive Brown]

The Mini Traveller predated the Kitten. It was steel-shelled, but light, and originally had a Marshall and Fraser 5 port A-series motor, later to be replaced by the first hybrid Imp lump.

The M&F Kitten was of course a monocoque, and not a spaceframe. Just as the Traveller was preferred over the saloon because of its better aero and 4" longer wheelbase, so the Kitten was selected over the Traveller.

Later on in its career, the heavily modded. Imp block was replaced by a unit of M&F's own creation.

I do believe that the Traveller did indeed go to John Meredith.

[driftwood]

this would make a interesting project only if you lived at home with yer mum and didnt have a girlfriend!
http://www.my105.com/classified.asp?id=13264

[HoTWire]

Originally Posted by driftwood

this would make a interesting project only if you lived at home with yer mum and didnt have a girlfriend!
http://www.my105.com/classified.asp?id=13264

I believe I actually know some people that might fit the bill.

Thank you for the continued info on all this...

Inevitable question,.. does John Meredith still have the traveller?


Also I'm wondering if the other Kitten that lives up North is the old Beardmore Brothers V8 one http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/websi...ant_kitten.htm which ended up oop North doing speed events. Obviously not a super saloon,.. but still an excellent build

[big andy]

no its not the same one the other kitten raced at oulton in the n/w saloons in 95/96 it was pink and had a 5lt v8 in the front looked the dogs but wasn t that quick can not remember the blokes name saw it for sale a fews back £7500 with spares