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Old 26 Apr 2006, 18:56 (Ref:1595624)   #1
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renewable carbon fibre

is there such a thing?
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Old 4 May 2006, 02:17 (Ref:1600413)   #2
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ss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
in what sense?
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Old 10 May 2006, 22:54 (Ref:1605523)   #3
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like you can recycle steel or aluminum, is there way to recycle carbon fibre?
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Old 11 May 2006, 10:05 (Ref:1605842)   #4
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Surely thats like asking can you recycle glass fibre as they are both produced by an irreversible catalist action so I would say definitely not.
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Old 11 May 2006, 11:07 (Ref:1605886)   #5
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Agree, the reason GF ancd CF is so strong is because the polymers impegnate the medium, suggesting you can't go back
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Old 11 May 2006, 12:28 (Ref:1605941)   #6
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And also CF is frequently used as an outer layer over other materials, such as Kevlar, aluminium, magnesium etc. In reprocessing you would doubtless end up with quantities of other chemicals/substances present, and this would affect the integrity of the CF.

I think the answer therefore would be no.
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Old 11 May 2006, 15:16 (Ref:1606043)   #7
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just did a quick google search. there is a way to re-use carbon fibre
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Old 11 May 2006, 23:58 (Ref:1606493)   #8
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How may we ask?
A solution that disolves the Polymer?
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Old 14 May 2006, 21:56 (Ref:1609907)   #9
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There is a way to shred the FRP, and recycle it into a new lower quality FRP with a shorter fiber structure. (as far as i know) Currently only used for low quality products used in housing construction made from recycled GFRP.

Maybe CFRP can be recycled to things like dingys, car bumers etc.
But i don't think there is enough CFRP to be recycled to create this process.
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Old 15 May 2006, 12:21 (Ref:1610493)   #10
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they use some chemical process to break down the "glue" then they re-use the weave
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Old 18 May 2006, 10:34 (Ref:1613327)   #11
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Agree, the reason GF ancd CF is so strong is because the polymers impregnate the medium, suggesting you can't go back
I have no technical reasons to back this up, but I once saw a completely burned out TVR and the glass fibres were sitting in the shape of the car and looked better than new! I have the impression that the resin only serves to suspend and retain the fibres in the direction intended, and does not amalgamate at all.
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In principle yes..

You are correct in your observation that the resin (or matrix) is there to suspend the fibres in position but do you fancy sitting there and picking each fibre out and weaving it back into a fabric? (Bare in mind fibre glass stings like a B**** if it get under your skin!) If you had the technology to do it you'd be a very rich man by now. BTW if you do have the technology I know a company that would be very interested...
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Old 21 May 2006, 18:30 (Ref:1615745)   #13
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while on the subject of CF, can anyone suggest a good supllier of the stuff for making wings etc?

No doubt that with the new Boeing 380 wings being built in the uk, it's going to push the prices up - again.
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Old 21 May 2006, 20:05 (Ref:1615784)   #14
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Boeing 380? Blimey don't say that in France or Bristol they will lynch you.
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someone i was talking to was telling me that CF is going to be really hard to come by and the price has gone up x4 in the past couple of years.. cos of the planes.
Think he even said they bought all the CF in the country that was availible !
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Boeing 380? Blimey don't say that in France or Bristol they will lynch you.

pardon me, i mean Airbus ...
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Boeing 380? Blimey don't say that in France or Bristol they will lynch you.
Not only in France or Bristol, be happy I dont know your adress
Regards from a german Airbus worker
A380 wings are mostly Al, A400M will have carbon fibre wing panels
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