WEC New rules. New manufacturers. The 2021 and beyond positivity thread! - Page 35

**Adam43** · 9 Jun 2022, 12:48 (Ref:4113703)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

'Amongst the proposals DSC believes will not be part of the GT3-future was an early notion that only manufacturers represented in the WEC Hypercar class would be eligible.'

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2022/...on-friday.html

It’s been mentioned a few times, but I assumed that would be quietly dropped. Maybe just a little threat to Aston in the early days of getting Hypercar going.

broadrun96 · 9 Jun 2022, 12:59 (Ref:4113707)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

It’s been mentioned a few times, but I assumed that would be quietly dropped. Maybe just a little threat to Aston in the early days of getting Hypercar going.

And possibly get Ferrari to consider it as well early on

Tique · 9 Jun 2022, 13:26 (Ref:4113719)

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Originally Posted by philipp

you guys think we are going to see the new Cadillac GTP today?

It is the plan

Tique · 9 Jun 2022, 14:37 (Ref:4113736)

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Originally Posted by philipp

you guys think we are going to see the new Cadillac GTP today?

Here it is

https://www.fiawec.com/en/news/new-c...aks-cover/7359

https://franceracing.fr/world-endura...a-future-lmdh/

https://www.endurance-info.com/auto/...evoile-sa-lmdh

I like it

philipp · 9 Jun 2022, 15:01 (Ref:4113749)

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Originally Posted by Tique

Here it is

https://www.fiawec.com/en/news/new-c...aks-cover/7359

https://franceracing.fr/world-endura...a-future-lmdh/

https://www.endurance-info.com/auto/...evoile-sa-lmdh

I like it

canaglia · 9 Jun 2022, 15:25 (Ref:4113762)

Never been a big fan of cadillac aesthetics style, but in its concept this car is some kind of corvette dp 2.0. Shame that apparently there will be only 2 full season cars in IMSA.

**joeb** · 9 Jun 2022, 15:38 (Ref:4113764)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

Never been a big fan of cadillac aesthetics style, but in its concept this car is some kind of corvette dp 2.0. Shame that apparently there will be only 2 full season cars in IMSA.

I would expect Cadillac to make customer cars available in the coming seasons. It has been GM policy over the years.

chernaudi · 9 Jun 2022, 16:42 (Ref:4113779)

I have to admit that I'm a fan of the BMW and Cadillac. Both do show what's possible under the new regs. They almost make the Toyota look stale (though in fairness that could also be due to it being around so long I'm used to the Toyota). Can't wait to see what the final Porsche will look like, or the Lamborghini (though the latter will be a while).

**FIRE** · 9 Jun 2022, 17:11 (Ref:4113785)

The Caddy has GT1 vibes.
I like it.

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

I have to admit that I'm a fan of the BMW and Cadillac. Both do show what's possible under the new regs. They almost make the Toyota look stale (though in fairness that could also be due to it being around so long I'm used to the Toyota). Can't wait to see what the final Porsche will look like, or the Lamborghini (though the latter will be a while).

I agree

broadrun96 · 9 Jun 2022, 20:19 (Ref:4113851)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I would expect Cadillac to make customer cars available in the coming seasons. It has been GM policy over the years.

And Dallara has more work to do with another car and Indy development for the hybrid system, only so many hours in the day. I would expect customer cars by 2024 given the previous plans, although that could change to be like Corvette was with the Vette being a customer available car soon enough

broadrun96 · 9 Jun 2022, 20:29 (Ref:4113854)

I wonder if the fin will retain this look in the actual car? It appears to be clear, guessing that wouldn't last. Might look ok at first but not so much after the Rolex or LM24.

veeten · 9 Jun 2022, 23:33 (Ref:4113880)

So, the 5.5L. engine will be used. Reminds me of the early 2000's, when they used the Northstar/Aurora engine. Hopefully this will make a better show of performance than that one did.

tux · 9 Jun 2022, 23:53 (Ref:4113881)

What kind of V8? Hope its similar to the one currently used, that thing sounds crazy. Seen some articles mention its a new engine based on the current C8R engine which would imply it has a flat plane crank but also seen some articles saying its a totally new engine which keeps hope that it will have a V8 rumble rather than sounding like the C8R. The C8R isnt a bad sound but id rather the V8 rumble.

Car looks good though, interesting to see what it looks like in the flesh.

broadrun96 · 10 Jun 2022, 00:00 (Ref:4113882)

The engine is an update of the current engine in the DPi car. I believe they're developing the right engine to match the current 5.5L but listed as DOHC now so....

It's not the similar sized Z06/GTE car engine and not related at all

canaglia · 10 Jun 2022, 14:11 (Ref:4113989)

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Originally Posted by tux

What kind of V8? Hope its similar to the one currently used, that thing sounds crazy. Seen some articles mention its a new engine based on the current C8R engine which would imply it has a flat plane crank but also seen some articles saying its a totally new engine which keeps hope that it will have a V8 rumble rather than sounding like the C8R. The C8R isnt a bad sound but id rather the V8 rumble.

Car looks good though, interesting to see what it looks like in the flesh.

probably the same engine currently used in cadillac dpi

broadrun96 · 10 Jun 2022, 21:51 (Ref:4114107)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

probably the same engine currently used in cadillac dpi

Given the information shared about the engine that's doubtful, current is not DOHC while multiple statements have said the new one is. Straight from the horse's mouth

Cadillac isn't releasing a ton of technical details on the car, though it said it's powered by an "all-new" 5.5-liter DOHC V-8. We asked GM's sports-car racing head Laura Klauser if it's based on the LT6.R, the flat-plane, DOHC 5.5-liter V-8 that powers the Corvette C8.R. She just said "it's brand new."

And ""We wanted to make sure that we brought forth the best possible solution from an engine package to make sure that we were competitive and we had the right pairing with the chassis versus trying to make something that we already had work," she said. "When you have such an opportunity like this and you look at the competition that's coming, you wanna bring the best possible package."

From Road and Track interview with Laura Klauser

veeten · 11 Jun 2022, 02:19 (Ref:4114123)

Okay, we've heard from Milford (GM), now the ball is in Dearborn's court.
C'mon Ford, you have the engine to match them... Talk to Multimatic, and get this done!

canaglia · 11 Jun 2022, 07:42 (Ref:4114145)

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Originally Posted by veeten

Okay, we've heard from Milford (GM), now the ball is in Dearborn's court.
C'mon Ford, you have the engine to match them... Talk to Multimatic, and get this done!

they did it already, multimatic will make new ford mustang gt3

Simmi · 22 Jun 2022, 13:02 (Ref:4116628)

Alpine/Andretti chat - https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...-lmdh-program/

Feels like a '25 thing surely if it even happens. And obviously a fundamental hurdle to be overcome around Alpine's IMSA registration.

Mike E · 22 Jun 2022, 13:21 (Ref:4116630)

Interesting that Bruno Famin has ended up at Alpine.

**joeb** · 22 Jun 2022, 13:28 (Ref:4116632)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Alpine/Andretti chat - https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...-lmdh-program/

Feels like a '25 thing surely if it even happens. And obviously a fundamental hurdle to be overcome around Alpine's IMSA registration.

I could see it happening in 24 if Oreca has the capacity to get the cars built with all their other work going on. Andretti has been itching to get back into top level protos for awhile now and has been running a P3 in IMSA.

Not selling cars in the US could be problematic for IMSA, but I'm sure they can find a way around that if they really put their head$ together...

Mike E · 22 Jun 2022, 13:50 (Ref:4116633)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I could see it happening in 24 if Oreca has the capacity to get the cars built with all their other work going on. Andretti has been itching to get back into top level protos for awhile now and has been running a P3 in IMSA.

Not selling cars in the US could be problematic for IMSA, but I'm sure they can find a way around that if they really put their head$ together...

¥€$

broadrun96 · 22 Jun 2022, 14:18 (Ref:4116634)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I could see it happening in 24 if Oreca has the capacity to get the cars built with all their other work going on. Andretti has been itching to get back into top level protos for awhile now and has been running a P3 in IMSA.

Not selling cars in the US could be problematic for IMSA, but I'm sure they can find a way around that if they really put their head$ together...

Alpine-Nissan?? Ooooh, fancy Alpine-Infiniti

canaglia · 22 Jun 2022, 17:26 (Ref:4116655)

Considering this future lmdh program, their intention to enter in f1 + FE and indy, Andretti has a lot of stuff planned for mid-long term.

S griffin · 23 Jun 2022, 07:08 (Ref:4116691)

I'm sure any manufacturer would be interested in Andretti running their team considering how well his team has been run and the success that goes with it

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