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5 Dec 2016, 21:53 (Ref:3694000)
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You also seem to be forgetting that Panoz got some support (though in the end half hearted) from Ford Racing, as in modern day Ford Performance, from 1997-2000.
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5 Dec 2016, 22:26 (Ref:3694003)
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Panoz only had Ford logos on the car through 1999. By 2000 they were entered as Elan engines. I guess you could say BMW was close enough to full time in 1999 since they only didn't show up for one race, although between the two and a Riley & Scott team winning the drivers' title it wasn't really a strong manufacturer competition.
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6 Dec 2016, 04:28 (Ref:3694079)
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It wasn't also the fault of Audi that when the R8 came out that BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan and Toyota turned their eyes towards greener pastures, namely F1 by 2000.
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6 Dec 2016, 17:10 (Ref:3694243)
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Nissan straight bailed on lack of results (including finishing behind the new Audis), and Mercedes downsized to DTM because there waa no championship and their Le Mans appearances were embarassments. They were replaced by Chrysler and Cadillac, which both got competitive chassis but decided they couldn't afford new engines capable of competing with Audi's purpose built direct injection race engine on both power and efficiency. Remember up until then even Toyota was using an old Group C engine.
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14 Dec 2016, 17:43 (Ref:3696189)
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Porsche has been testing in Aragon, here's a link to their twitter showing the camouflaged new aero. The front splitter area looks a little different imo.
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14 Dec 2016, 17:47 (Ref:3696191)
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I am praying that the camo means they are dumping their awful livery of the last few years.
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14 Dec 2016, 18:44 (Ref:3696206)
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Bodywork looks same to me.
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14 Dec 2016, 19:04 (Ref:3696211)
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Same to me as well.
I guess it is too early to see the major aero changes.
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14 Dec 2016, 19:41 (Ref:3696219)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike E
I am praying that the camo means they are dumping their awful livery of the last few years.
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They should use that camo as their livery.
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14 Dec 2016, 20:40 (Ref:3696234)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith
They should use that camo as their livery.
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I like that idea!
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14 Dec 2016, 21:33 (Ref:3696248)
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I think this is 2016 low-downforce kit (Le mans spec) ,the real components testing there are beneath(probably) I doubt that they are going to show us the new aero kits before Monza.
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14 Dec 2016, 22:48 (Ref:3696263)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith
They should use that camo as their livery.
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Would the other drivers be able to see it?
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14 Dec 2016, 23:12 (Ref:3696271)
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Would the other drivers be able to see it?
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Of course not, that's the purpose of a camo livery, especially along the Mulsanne in the middle of the night. 
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2 Feb 2017, 12:15 (Ref:3708676)
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First test in 2017 completed in Valencia.
2876 Km completed.
Bernhard, Lotterer and Tandy were the drivers.
Focus on Tires.
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4 Feb 2017, 22:14 (Ref:3709774)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith
They should use that camo as their livery.
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I think the livery we saw from the Porsche GT's at Daytona will give us a clue.
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