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Old 16 Jun 2014, 02:44 (Ref:3422360)   #626
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Alfa Romeo LMP1 with a Ferrari F1 V6 Turbo engine.
This could be called Alfa Romeo Ferrari.
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 08:48 (Ref:3422441)   #627
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Fact. Alfa is the likely marque for P1. Maserati maybe in GT.
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 16:09 (Ref:3422649)   #628
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Since Ferrari are now fully-committed to Formula One, I guess the only way for them to join the LMP1 class is give their F1 engine to either Maserati or Alfa Romeo.

Personally, I think Maserati would be a better candidate than Alfa Romeo. If neither can't do it, then I guess it's up to Chrysler who will do prototypes. After all, they're part of the Fiat-Chrysler alliance. But then again, it won't happen!
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 16:32 (Ref:3422664)   #629
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Exactly. There is an dossier that was shared with Alfa stakeholders recently. It detailed their desire to return to motorsport. Not how, or with what, but an Alfa project is in the works.

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Old 16 Jun 2014, 16:59 (Ref:3422674)   #630
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Exactly. There is an dossier that was shared with Alfa stakeholders recently. It detailed their desire to return to motorsport. Not how, or with what, but an Alfa project is in the works.
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 18:12 (Ref:3422697)   #631
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Did you get it?
I have a copy, I'll find it and post it.

I don't think it was supposed to be widely released, intentional leak? I don't know...

EDIT:http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/Inve...Alfa_Brand.pdf

EDIT 2:I know this details that they are bringing back the Giulietta, but, why speak about the motorsports stuff? Just seems odd unless you have motorsport plans.

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Old 16 Jun 2014, 18:22 (Ref:3422699)   #632
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What if Alfa goes to Touring cars...That seems like the easiest route doesn't it?
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 18:33 (Ref:3422702)   #633
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What if Alfa goes to Touring cars...That seems like the easiest route doesn't it?
I suppose...

Does anyone even pay attention to the WTCC?
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 19:16 (Ref:3422722)   #634
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Touring cars makes more sense than LMP1.
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Old 16 Jun 2014, 19:30 (Ref:3422728)   #635
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I suppose...

Does anyone even pay attention to the WTCC?
I don't, but Alfa seems like perfect fit for a touring car.

Then again Puegeot seemed like a fit for touring car but they did WRC with that hideous 307 and then came to Le Mans. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 01:53 (Ref:3422822)   #636
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"A dream of mine?", not "My dream?", which is slightly different
Actually, it also means "one dream of mine", as if the interviewer asked "choose one dream".
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 02:04 (Ref:3422825)   #637
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that's the same thing, baby
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 02:17 (Ref:3422828)   #638
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"A dream" means "any dream", which is very different than "(the) one dream". Buth both are written the same in Italian (and Spanish)
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 02:31 (Ref:3422831)   #639
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This failed 30-minute manufacturer announcement sounds like a very doubtful project, like Russian or Arab style.
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 02:33 (Ref:3422832)   #640
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Is it "I have a dream" or "I have one dream"?

The Interview with LdM when like this:

- "Mr. Montezemolo, could you share a dream of yours?"
- "A dream of mine? To win at LeMans!"

Which would not be the direct translation from Italian, but the meaningful translation..... But I still prefer to argue about Audi having a more powerful engine and burning a lot less fuel than what anyone thinks
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 08:35 (Ref:3422930)   #641
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Giancarlo Fisichella says a Ferrari LMP1 entry would be “a dream” following his GTE PRO victory at Le Mans.
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Alonso says he will drive at Le Mans one day... question is in what?
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if alonso was interested for real to run at le mans, ferrari was very happy to put him in an af-corse pro car... truth is that alonso doesn't care at all. When loeb ran for pescarolo, he ran in a private team and just for passion without any salary! Alonso is too much egocentric to run for free and to share the attention with 2 other drivers...

and making a quick calculation, alonso earns 25 mln of € for each F1 season.
20 x 300 = an average of 6000km per season (in race). This year AF corse won the gtpro class runnin 339 laps = 4644km.
4644km / 3 = 1548km per single driver if the whole distance is split for 3.
So if a top team of GT-pro wants to hire alonso for a le mans ride, should spend not less than 6.45 mln of € for his salary...
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Alonso would have no problem doing it in the future. Again, if they got other "partners" to put up the money, they'd do it. But with the F1 team in disarray and the Italian economy as bad, it's tough to see them taking the plunge let alone coming up with a convincing effort to despose Audi. In any event, I'm sure this is all bluster to strongarm F1 bosses into seeing things their way.
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if alonso was interested for real to run at le mans, ferrari was very happy to put him in an af-corse pro car... truth is that alonso doesn't care at all. When loeb ran for pescarolo, he ran in a private team and just for passion without any salary! Alonso is too much egocentric to run for free and to share the attention with 2 other drivers...
A nice grouping of complete assumptions there.
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There is always Alonso being Mark's mate, and hearing how NICE the water is in this pond.
Most F1 drivers have enough to live on after 2-3 seasons. Both those guys have put in around 10. I doubt salary would be a major object of contention. Merely confirmation of status. That is how JV measured it...
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Old 17 Jun 2014, 11:49 (Ref:3423022)   #647
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A nice grouping of complete assumptions there.
And a very flawed way of calculating salary.

Biggest obstacle is obviously the fact that LM is between two GP weekends. It just would be hard to do it, seriously and properly.
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if alonso was interested for real to run at le mans, ferrari was very happy to put him in an af-corse pro car... truth is that alonso doesn't care at all. When loeb ran for pescarolo, he ran in a private team and just for passion without any salary! Alonso is too much egocentric to run for free and to share the attention with 2 other drivers...
The fact most F1 drivers have a clause in their contract banning them from racing anywhere else could have nothing to do with it of course.

Reality? The only current F1 driver who has made a definitive statement about whether he would go prototype racing after his career was over is Jenson Button who said he wasn't interested.
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The fact most F1 drivers have a clause in their contract banning them from racing anywhere else could have nothing to do with it of course.
I know, I know, and for sure F1 teams became even more restrictive after kubica incident. But I said that if Alonso was going to try a ride at le mans, I'm sure that ferrari would have found a seat for him in an af corse pro car. Anyway I just think that top F1 drivers simply don't care about le mans and sportscars.
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