Ferrari P1 Rumours - Page 28

deggis · 26 Jun 2014, 03:21 (Ref:3426564)

I laughed when I saw those doors... quite a bit more bulkier than what the current LMPs have.

deggis · 26 Jun 2014, 03:23 (Ref:3426568)

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Originally Posted by Articus

I think if Ferrari were to win the bid for the coveted Mercedes engine, it could free up enough resources to do a Le Mans prototype in 2016.

I read this several times and I still don't understand it.

Articus · 26 Jun 2014, 03:40 (Ref:3426570)

Mclaren is switching from Mercedes to Honda engines in Formula 1. This means 1 lucky F1 team will get the chance to takeover the engine supply from Mercedes AMG who is at maximum capacity. If Ferrari take up this option, and shutter their mediocre F1 engine program, they could free up resources for a Le Mans prototype.

And no, that should not be read with a straight face

MagVanisher · 26 Jun 2014, 05:15 (Ref:3426588)

Why Ferrari has to buy an engine from a competitor, let alone came from Mercedes, a German manufacturer? I don't think they'll grab that offer since they'll lose their national pride.

Articus · 26 Jun 2014, 05:30 (Ref:3426589)

While I acknowledge the suggestion goes under

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Never gonna happen

I wouldn't mind if it did, such that Ferrari could compete at Le Mans. Anything that encourages more factory teams at Le Mans.

TF110 · 26 Jun 2014, 06:57 (Ref:3426610)

The day Ferrari use an engine other than a Ferrari is the day you will no longer see a Ferrari.

MagVanisher · 26 Jun 2014, 07:20 (Ref:3426616)

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Originally Posted by TF110

The day Ferrari use an engine other than a Ferrari is the day you will no longer see a Ferrari.

Totally agreed! If Formula One go as far as having one engine supplier, that's the time Ferrari would leave F1 altogether!

Articus · 26 Jun 2014, 07:43 (Ref:3426626)

It would be cheaper, upwards of 30 million cheaper per season for Ferrari to run Mercedes engines, gearboxes, and KERs...Just enough to sustain a decent LMP1 team!

Honda and Renault would still be around.

alless · 26 Jun 2014, 09:16 (Ref:3426668)

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Originally Posted by Articus

It would be cheaper, upwards of 30 million cheaper per season for Ferrari to run Mercedes engines, gearboxes, and KERs...Just enough to sustain a decent LMP1 team!

Honda and Renault would still be around.

How can you think about Ferrari going rather cheaper and loosing there pride?
THey rather lose than going with different manufacturer engine.

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Originally Posted by deggis

I laughed when I saw those doors... quite a bit more bulkier than what the current LMPs have.

Not just bulkier, but forbiden to. Current rules dont allow such doors and overall the concept is something that wouldnt work and its on 2013 rules.

carbon_titanium · 26 Jun 2014, 10:17 (Ref:3426690)

A f1 ferrari powered by a mercedes engine? ahahhaahhahahahahhaha

hondafan37 · 26 Jun 2014, 18:42 (Ref:3426880)

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Originally Posted by TF110

This story has more to it...

According to autosprint, Domenicalli sought a budget for a Le Mans car http://twitter.com/matlemans/status/481538863752835072

Could it be a LMP1-L client program? Style 333SP.

deggis · 26 Jun 2014, 19:39 (Ref:3426897)

Has Domenicali completely left Ferrari? Bahrain GP was just a week before he resigned.

TF110 · 26 Jun 2014, 21:55 (Ref:3426941)

No, he just 'stepped down' from his position in the f1 team.

hondafan37 · 26 Jun 2014, 22:19 (Ref:3426951)

Maybe they only fixed his departure to take over the Le mans's project

**skycafe** · 27 Jun 2014, 01:55 (Ref:3426987)

wow

Rodger Davies · 27 Jun 2014, 06:59 (Ref:3427033)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

wow

Just to check, you mean 'wow, what an incredible leap of logic and amazingly unlikely conspiracy story', right?

J Jay · 27 Jun 2014, 09:17 (Ref:3427076)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

Maybe they only fixed his departure to take over the Le mans's project

If Ferrari's goal is to finish no better than 4th/5th, you may be onto something

As far as I know he has no sportscar experience (some DTM before moving to Ferrari and I think that's it). I doubt this is the man anyone would want leading their brand-new LMP project.

Nordic · 27 Jun 2014, 17:22 (Ref:3427235)

With all the bull that follows Ferrari f1 I would rather they stayed away from a P1 program.

Can you imagine the hyperbole and nonsense they would bring into an area of Motorsport that is by comparison to F1 open and easy going.

A Ferrari p1 could kill the WEC because the fia would need to kill it to ensure F1 remains the 'top' formula, any growth in wec popularity would threaten that.

Personally I would prefer an Alfa or Maserati program.

lms · 27 Jun 2014, 17:48 (Ref:3427242)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

With all the bull that follows Ferrari f1 I would rather they stayed away from a P1 program.

Can you imagine the hyperbole and nonsense they would bring into an area of Motorsport that is by comparison to F1 open and easy going.

A Ferrari p1 could kill the WEC because the fia would need to kill it to ensure F1 remains the 'top' formula, any growth in wec popularity would threaten that.

Personally I would prefer an Alfa or Maserati program.

i agree. the wec shouldnt have that much attention from the fia, they would mess it up quickly to protect f1 or overcomplicate things with stupid and restrictive rules, better it stays "low profile" without any f1 teams.

deggis · 27 Jun 2014, 20:18 (Ref:3427280)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

A Ferrari p1 could kill the WEC because the fia would need to kill it to ensure F1 remains the 'top' formula, any growth in wec popularity would threaten that.

You can't be serious. You have pretty high view of WEC. With Ferrari or not, races running half a day and a series that is not driver-centric will never get mainstream interest rivalling F1. That has not happened in the past and it will not happen now. There is a bit more to being the "top" series than the frankly here overrated amount of manufacturers and presence of Ferrari.

ps. Prediction: someone will soon repeat the popular conspiracy theory about Group C and Bernie.

TF110 · 27 Jun 2014, 22:11 (Ref:3427296)

If they ran every 2 weeks then maybe itd threaten f1, but not now. Even if Ferrari and Mercedes joined, with only 8 races, its not for the casual fan imo. F1 is safe with its 19, 20 race calendar.

Articus · 27 Jun 2014, 22:47 (Ref:3427301)

I don't think their is a conspiracy from the FIA. Why can't people be fans of both? Fans aren't being stolen...They are learning to like and appreciate all types of motorsport.

**skycafe** · 27 Jun 2014, 23:37 (Ref:3427308)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Just to check, you mean 'wow, what an incredible leap of logic and amazingly unlikely conspiracy story', right?

Sorry. I am not sure 'leap of logic' has any application here, since logic seems to not be involved at all.

I do have a question about all this, if you were going to consult astrological tables for an answer on all this, would you calculate the Ferrari astrological sign based on Enzo's birth sign, or the date of Ferrari's formation as a constructor?

If Jupiter is rising, I think we know the outcome....

Rodger Davies · 28 Jun 2014, 02:42 (Ref:3427361)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

If Jupiter is rising, I think we know the outcome....

Aha! So you think Alfa Romeo too!

MitchZ06 · 28 Jun 2014, 04:09 (Ref:3427365)

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Originally Posted by TF110

If they ran every 2 weeks then maybe itd threaten f1, but not now. Even if Ferrari and Mercedes joined, with only 8 races, its not for the casual fan imo. F1 is safe with its 19, 20 race calendar.

19-20 races that are an hour long vs 7 6 hour races and a 24 hour race, WEC is for a completely different type of motorsport enthusiast, one with a long attention span and a focus on the technology....not the driver....F1 is safe no matter what WEC does.

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