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Old 18 Dec 2003, 23:59 (Ref:815667)   #1
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Who is the most talented Aust current driver?

In any series of Australia racing, which driver has displayed the greatest talent. Nominate a driver below.
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Old 19 Dec 2003, 04:53 (Ref:815766)   #2
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Norrgard, your link has had the effect I suspect you wanted it to, which was to send me to your website where I found some great movie downloads at the bottom of the home page.

I've been told by a few people about Ari Vatenen driving Pike's Peak, but I've never seen it until now. Well worth the 66mb download!

Oh, and yes, I voted ...
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Old 19 Dec 2003, 07:02 (Ref:815805)   #3
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Should I vote for Rodney Forbes, or not????
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Old 19 Dec 2003, 13:24 (Ref:816065)   #4
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Thanks Vee8.

Gaz170, I know I didn't. (Not saying any more then that.)
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:20 (Ref:816628)   #5
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Tough question , but here are my picks
1.MARK WEBBER
2.JIM RICHARDS
3.CRAIG LOWNDES
4.PAUL MORRIS
5.GELN SETON
=6.MARK SKAIFE
STEVE JOHNSON


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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:29 (Ref:816631)   #6
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I was with you for the first 6 names... then you put the 7th there and left me scrattching my head....
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:31 (Ref:816635)   #7
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:34 (Ref:816637)   #8
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TSR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Give him proper eqipment ,he'll be right, just stail were he is.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:35 (Ref:816639)   #9
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Junior needs to ween himself from Daddy I think

Interested to know why Ambrose didn't make your list though :confused:
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:38 (Ref:816642)   #10
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he is in 9th place
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 06:43 (Ref:816645)   #11
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Interesting...

Here's my top 6

1. Richo (nobody can jump into an unknown car at his age like he can, that takes real talent!)
2. Mark Webber (Gotta have our F1 star up the top)
3. Mark Skaife (did you expect anything else? )
4. Ryan Briscoe (Our next big thing)
5. Craig Lowndes (He's lost his shine in the last few years, but still shows glimpses)
=6. Marcos Ambrose (quick but needs to work on his overtaking skills)
Greg Murphy (Pure guts and determination mixed with raw talent, winning combination)
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 07:28 (Ref:816659)   #12
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Paul Morris is right to be on that list. The guy is a star, which the run in the 911 at Bathurst showed in a big way. And should do very well in the Trans Tasman Porsche series too!

Glenn Seton is also a star, perhaps slightly faded for now, but should be given credit for some of the good setup up work at FPR when they actually get to test the car. The Bathurst speed was no fluke, Glenn made the right changes and the car went handled like a dream...
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 09:22 (Ref:816675)   #13
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Im voting craig, his raw speed on cold tyres and in cars undeserving of any sort of pace shows he still has it. when all is right with his team/car he will win again. As for mark webber, its only a matter of time before he breaks in to the winners circle.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 09:33 (Ref:816677)   #14
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My vote went to Jim Richards as i believe that to win as many different categories as he has in Australian motorsport puts him in a class of his own.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 10:26 (Ref:816699)   #15
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My top vote would also go to Jim Richards. The man is a legend in many categories. Smooth, fast and ultra competitive. A great ambassador for us baby-boomers. Targa Tasmania, Porsche Cup, V8 Supercars, whatever - it doesn't make much difference.

My other votes would go to (2) Marcos Ambrose after a great year - and for being an ultra-nice guy that no-one could take exception to.

Being a Sprintcar freak, I'd give (3) Max Dumesny a big vote in here. A terrific family man, supporting his 16y.o. son Mitchell in one of these 800hp, 1200lb racecars. Who said turning left in one of these beasts was easy? Max has won in NASCARs, driven competitively in Supercars, and been Australia's best in Sprintcar racing for twenty years. Howdy neighbour.

Greg Murphy gets my (4). The guy is quick, ultra-competitive - and gets results. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and Supercars needs more like him.

My (5) would be Australia's best driver in Supercars - Mark Skaife. Love him or hate him, the boy is good. Very good. IMHO, the very best in our premier category. Saddled with his added responsibilities, he can still race at the front with the best.

I acknowledge our Aussie ex-patriots racing overseas, and give Mark Webber and Ryan Briscoe my (6) and (7). Maybe Mark will jump up about six spots in my own estimation within twelve months. Just being an F1 driver won't automatically do it. My congratultaions just for getting there.

8, 9 and 10 can be shared by Greg Ritter, Warren Luff and Todd Kelly. They've all proved themselves in single-seater racing, and all are headed for better things. Todd has a great spot at HRT, and Greg and Warren will find themselves in similar good rides soon. Forget the SORF factor. They still need to be talented and quick.

That leaves IMHO, good talents like Mark Winterbottom, Cam McConville and numerous others in FF, karts and Konica - and Speedway. I couldn't find room in my list for some of motor-sports best drivers. Those who race through forests on dirt. There's a whole new lot of drivers there.

Personally, I'd like to see Brooke Tatnell and Kerry Madsen in some other form of motorsport apart from those wussy Sprintcar things. Both guys are dedicated and quick. They just need to get used to cars with a lesser grunt-factor than those 800hp, 1200lb racecars that race on dirt.

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Well after his excellent performances during the year, my vote would have to go to Peter Brock.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 13:01 (Ref:816747)   #17
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Well after his excellent performances during the year, my vote would have to go to Peter Brock.
I'll second that MHDT!! To all the Brock knockers !! At 58 Brock's still got what it takes to go quick!! Still better than half the field in the taxis!! Maybe some of the egos should take note of the old blokes still racing.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 13:35 (Ref:816770)   #18
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My picks
1. Paul Stokell - Nations Cup Champion
2. Mark Webber- jag F1 driver- Great perfomances this year
3. Greg Murphy - v8 Driver - His will to win is he key
4. Mark Skaife - V8 driver
5. jim richards - Drives everthing - Nothing more can be said about jim richards he has done it all
6. peter Brock- Nations Cup Driver- At 58 he has still got the edge to win shown in the nations cup championship this year the the Bathurst 24hr
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 14:13 (Ref:816804)   #19
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How about Will Power?

He would have to be the quickest of the young guns by far, with all respect to the brothers Kelly et al.
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 14:20 (Ref:816806)   #20
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Forget Webber, he is the best the openwheeler driver Australia has produced for some time (an F1 driver no less!), Skaife would have to be No 1, Lowndes carrying a car that should not be where it is 2nd, give Ambrose a few more years yet, Murphy is a front runner only!
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 14:21 (Ref:816807)   #21
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Maybe we should do a poll of this based on a personal top 5, votes given in reverse order (5 for 1st etc) and figure it out that way? I'll do the maths (in Excel so I don't stuff it up) if anyone is willing to vote
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Old 20 Dec 2003, 22:27 (Ref:817074)   #22
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I think talent should be gauged on and off the track. Maybe antic's such as skaifes at the creek , jimmy richards at bathurst , with skaife ,"your all a pack of A....... holes" , should be added into the arguement.Paul morris , he has had few massive brain fades over the years .Greg murphy -whinge whinge etc etc etc .I think people like - PETER BROCK , CRAIG LOWNDES ,MARCUS AMBROSE ,MARK WEBBER , MICK DOOHAN are the complete talent package , THAT BEST REPRESENT AUSTRALIA
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I notice that Russel Ingall failed to make anyone list, I wonder why that is?
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Old 21 Dec 2003, 02:18 (Ref:817206)   #24
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Hobo high I agree with you there, but with your chioce of Mick Doohan he has retired and is not active today
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