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Old 4 May 2005, 00:32 (Ref:1292495)   #1
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I am researching the Tui marque and am looking for any information or photos of these cars. Here is what I know so far:


Tui cars were designed by New Zealander Allan McCall who had worked as a mechanic for Jim Clark and then for McLaren in F1, CanAm and USAC. In 1970 McCall produced an F3 car the Tui AM1 (Tui is a bird native to New Zealand). The AM1 consisted of an aluminium monocoque chassis with outboard suspension. Powered by a Broadspeed engine many of the cars parts used were from the McLaren works (uprights, suspension, windscreen etc) - indeed the car was like a small McLaren M7. The car had a wheelbase of 84.5 ins. and a front track of 54 ins. and rear of 56 ins. In Formula B spec the car was very successful winning three out of 5 races and leading the other two!
This Formula 3 car was to form the basis for all the cars which were to follow.

Mcall's next car was to be the AM29 which was initially penned to be an Atlantic car but because Fred Opert (who imported Tui cars) was handling Chevron Atlantics he declined the new car. However he did need Super Vees so the new chassis was adapted with cars to be built by Leda.

In 1972 Allan McCall entered Formula 2 with the Leda-Tui AM29 however the team was devastated by the loss of Hawthorne who was killed at Hockenheim in the early spring. There after, all new cars started with the prefix BH in deference to Bert Hawthorne. The season continued with Dave Morgan and John Watson driving the second car, Morgan managed to put the Tui on pole at Albi and Watson took 5th place at Rouen. McCall was to work again with Watson when he managed the Hexagon Brabham Formula 1 team. McCall also designed the 1973 Techno F1 car.

The AM29 (which was also used in Super Vee) soon became the BH2 and this chassis was entered in the North American Formula Atlantic Championship btween 1975 - 1977. In 1976 the BH2 did moderately well and was in fact the biggest thorn in the side of March's complete dominance. McCall ran the team with Elliott Forbes-Robinson driving. EFR got a pair of seconds to Gilles Villeneuve, and a third. After a disagreement EFR left the team and was replaced by Tom Gloy who also received two seconds and a pole at Laguna Seca's end of season race. Other drivers of the BH2 were Brett Lunger, Damien Magee and John Nicholson.

The BH3 used basically the same tub and served purely as a Super Vee car. The chassis differed from the AM29 in that the rear pick up point for the lower link was moved outboard. Success came to Tui in 1973 with Bertil Roos winning the VW Gold Cup professional Super Vee championship in a Fred Opert Team BH3 car chassis 011. Roos came 2nd in the World Super Vee Championship. As far as I can determine around 1974 the marque started to use the "Supernova" name with the final cars in the series being the BH5 Super Vee of 1975-1976, also known as the SSV75 and the F3 car (SF3). Thanks to Andrew Baker and John Morrison it has been established that the cars were built in Billingshurst, West Sussex (Station Approach) in batches of six. The head technician was Stan Collier and Jerry Judd was the business manager. If anyone can add more information or supply photos please contact me.

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AM1 ----------- F3 and FB total number unknown.

AM29 ---------- Super Vee and F2. Total production unknown. AM29/1 destroyed in accident at Hockenheim - Bert Hawthorne killed.

BH2 -------- ex F2 converted to Atlantic and raced in North America. BH2/1 and BH2/2. One BH2 survives and I think it is BH2/2. BH2/3 was to be built but came to nothing. Does anyone know which chassis John Watson drove?

BH3 ------Super Vee I own chassis 011 (Ex Roos championship car). There are a few survivors one owned by Mark Lawton and running in the classic F3 series in the UK. Andrew Baker also owns a BH3 in the UK car was under restoration but I do not know it's current disposition. Various BH3s have been butchered in the US to run in Solo events and several others await restoration. Total production unknow but something between 18 - 21.

Supernova BH4 --- New tub but utilizing much of the BH3 suspension. Pre wings car for 1974 with new bodywork. By this time McCall had nothing to do with the marque.

Supernova BH5 (SSV75) Same tub as BH4 with same bodywork but now with front and rear wings - still air cooled. Good looking car! I own a tub and a few parts to #004. Richard Wilkinson in California owns #007 where it is run in vintage events. Very quick car.

Supernova SF3 : Formula 3 car - 1 only. Little known. Does anyone know what happened to this car?

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Old 4 May 2005, 01:14 (Ref:1292504)   #2
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Mike,

A gentleman in the U.S. by the name of Rob. Laverty was enquiring re. Tui's a few years ago on the Brabham site in the open forum.
www.nvo.com/brabhams, you may be able to contact him as he has/had a Tui.

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Old 4 May 2005, 02:06 (Ref:1292513)   #3
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I have Allans email if you need it
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Old 4 May 2005, 13:32 (Ref:1292848)   #4
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Hi Bryan,

Thanks for the information. I have been in touch with Rob in the past and he knew little about the marque (as do most people). As I dig more I am finding tidbits of information, some good and some conjecture. For instance just today I was browsing the OldRacingCars.com site and I noticed that the Mcrae GM1 F5000 car has almost exactly the same nose piece as the Tui F2 car and the Supernova F3 car. This makes sense because both were built by Len Terry's Leda cars. What is interesting is that the Supernova nose even looks as though the moulding is set up for a wider chord front wing like that which would be used in F5000. Maybe I will restore my Supernovea at some point!

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Mike,

A gentleman in the U.S. by the name of Rob. Laverty was enquiring re. Tui's a few years ago on the Brabham site in the open forum.
www.nvo.com/brabhams, you may be able to contact him as he has/had a Tui.

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Old 4 May 2005, 13:40 (Ref:1292852)   #5
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Hello Pete,

I would be grateful for Allan's e-mail --- Thanks. I have been in touch with Allan in the past but he did not add too much to what I already know. I am sure there are many stories lurking. Sometimes I think he is a little reluctant to rekindle memories, some of which are painful (regarding Bert Hawthorne's death). I think this is why I am somewhat hesitant in contacting him.

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Old 4 May 2005, 21:54 (Ref:1293235)   #6
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Mike,it's on its way .Good luck
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Old 5 May 2005, 01:47 (Ref:1293322)   #7
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One of the Super V cars is owned by John Hafner from Vancouver Canada who uses it for Autocross and Hillcblimbs. I believe that he shortened the car/wheelbase. The thing has big horsepower (turbo'd) and is increadibly fast.
I'll try and get the chassis number.
A picture of it can be viewed at http://www.caccautosport.org/gallery/album07/P5230123

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Old 5 May 2005, 21:09 (Ref:1293987)   #8
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I think I can help you there Mike - I drove for Ian William's Supernova SuperVWs 73/4 and 5 including a couple of visits Stateside with Opert, the UK Silver Cup and Euro Gold Cup series those years. A great few seasons. PM me if you will.
It was Ian who bought the Tui thing from Malcolm Bridgelands Malaya Garage at the end of 72.
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Old 5 May 2005, 21:17 (Ref:1293990)   #9
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... just today I was browsing the OldRacingCars.com site ...
Mike

I was hoping I could help in some way with this research but am quite surprised that I already have! I have some Tui results on the site, for example US 1971 FB, but I have little understanding of those early cars. Presumably that 1971 FB car was the Tui AM1, not a BH2?

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Old 5 May 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1294015)   #10
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Hi Allen,

I was just looking at those results today and already have a correction to make (to my original message). I noticed that in 1971 there was a total of 6 FB races and it appears that the Tui was entered in 5 of the six winning Mexico City, Edmonton and Brainerd. You are right to say that this was the Tui AM1 F3/FB car. Here is a link to a photo of Hawthorne in the AM1 car.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...39116781ebBeDv

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I was hoping I could help in some way with this research but am quite surprised that I already have! I have some Tui results on the site, for example US 1971 FB, but I have little understanding of those early cars. Presumably that 1971 FB car was the Tui AM1, not a BH2?

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I'm too interested in Tuis to let this thread fade away. We need more information, folks!

Can anyone post the 1970 F3 Tui results? Maybe from the F1 Register book to start with?

Bert Hawthorne's 1971 FB results are:

R2 Monterrey - retired, mechanical (18th)
R3 Mexico City - WON
R4 Edmonton - WON
R5 Brainerd - WON
R6 Elkhart Lake - crashed (32nd)

In 1972, the Leda-Tui appears in European F2 and in US FSV. We have covered the two cars used in F2 but I can add some details of the 1972 FSV season:

Fred Philips "Leda Tui" (from R2 Watkins Glen) - 8 races, 2nd at R3 Road Atlanta
Fred Van Beuren "Leda Tui" (from R2 Watkins Glen) - 7 races
Jon Woodner "Tui" (from R3 Road Atlanta) - 6 races, won at R7 Laguna Seca
Peter Schuster "Leda Tui" (from R4 Donnybrook) - 3 races
Mike Eyerley "Leda Tui" (R6 Portland only) - may have driven Van Beuren's car.
Scooter Patrick "Leda Tui" (from R7 Laguna Seca) - 2 races, could have taken over Schuster's car

So that's at least four FSV cars, more likely five. Presumably these are AM29s, like the F2 cars. Vercoe says Opert ordered eight AM29s for 1972 and that McCall used chassis AM29/7 for F2. I don't know where he got that information from but the number of eight AM29s seems highly plausible.

In 1973, FSV was full of Tui BH3s, run by Roos, Philips, Dave McMillan, Van Beuren, Tom Reddy, Dick Cooney, Bert Everett, Jack Rabold, Eyerley (again just a single guest drive), John Benton, Bill Collins and John Morrison with Steve Griswold (yes, him!) in a Tui AM29. Who built the BH3s? Leda again?

In 1974, the Supernova Tuis appear but the marque was eclipsed in FSV.

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Old 13 May 2005, 19:31 (Ref:1300297)   #12
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Allen,

Thanks for your contribution. The information about AM29s is interesting and could be accurate. I always wondered which chassis became the F2 car. I have a few more names to add to your list:

Below information comes from 1976 and 1977 Road Racing Annuals:
1975 Season:
1) Bob Lazier who finnished 4th in the VW Gold Cup. He is listed as driving a Lola T324 however photo shows him to be in a BH5 with rear wing and F3 Chevron or March nose with intake tapped off. Competed all races that season. (I have photo of this car)
2) Billy McConnell BH5. Finnished season in 8th place. Sponsored by Essex Chemical. Competed full season. (I have photo)
3) K. K. Ross? According to Fred Opert this is Keke Rosberg. Competed at Watkins (05-10-75) only - 6th place finish.
4) Stu Moore Tui AM29 Competed one race only - Mosport (21-09-75) - finished 7th.

There other drivers in 1975 but chassis are not listed.

1976 Season:
1) Francisco Romero Opert Racing Tui BH5 - Competed 6 races (8th 10th 7th and 8th 2 DNFs).
2) Stuart Moore still using AM29! 7 races (5th 13th 13th 12th 3 DNFs)
3) Bobby Rahal Opert Racing Supernova Tui BH5 - first race of the season only (Daytona Jan 31 1976) Finished 5th. Sposored by Red Roof Inns. (I have photo of Rahal in cockpit).

I also have a photo of Hurley Haywood in a BH3 (Zeitler Team). Appears to be around 1973. Paul Pfanner the current President of "Racer" magazine also had a BH3 but I am not sure of details.

Another little point of interest. Allan McCall told me that one can tell the differance between the AM29 and BH3 by the shape of the side of the monocoque. AM29 has a slightly rounded side to the monocoque where as the BH3 is flat.

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I'm too interested in Tuis to let this thread fade away. We need more information, folks!

Can anyone post the 1970 F3 Tui results? Maybe from the F1 Register book to start with?

Bert Hawthorne's 1971 FB results are:

R2 Monterrey - retired, mechanical (18th)
R3 Mexico City - WON
R4 Edmonton - WON
R5 Brainerd - WON
R6 Elkhart Lake - crashed (32nd)

In 1972, the Leda-Tui appears in European F2 and in US FSV. We have covered the two cars used in F2 but I can add some details of the 1972 FSV season:

Fred Philips "Leda Tui" (from R2 Watkins Glen) - 8 races, 2nd at R3 Road Atlanta
Fred Van Beuren "Leda Tui" (from R2 Watkins Glen) - 7 races
Jon Woodner "Tui" (from R3 Road Atlanta) - 6 races, won at R7 Laguna Seca
Peter Schuster "Leda Tui" (from R4 Donnybrook) - 3 races
Mike Eyerley "Leda Tui" (R6 Portland only) - may have driven Van Beuren's car.
Scooter Patrick "Leda Tui" (from R7 Laguna Seca) - 2 races, could have taken over Schuster's car

So that's at least four FSV cars, more likely five. Presumably these are AM29s, like the F2 cars. Vercoe says Opert ordered eight AM29s for 1972 and that McCall used chassis AM29/7 for F2. I don't know where he got that information from but the number of eight AM29s seems highly plausible.

In 1973, FSV was full of Tui BH3s, run by Roos, Philips, Dave McMillan, Van Beuren, Tom Reddy, Dick Cooney, Bert Everett, Jack Rabold, Eyerley (again just a single guest drive), John Benton, Bill Collins and John Morrison with Steve Griswold (yes, him!) in a Tui AM29. Who built the BH3s? Leda again?

In 1974, the Supernova Tuis appear but the marque was eclipsed in FSV.

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I've just emailed Mike as this is quite a large subject for me. I've suggested finding Ian Williams and Fred Opert who were the king pins behind the Supanova side of things, 73 onwards.
I do not have any lists of chassis numbers or stuff, but remember the period vividly. For example, at the end of 73, having won the UK Silver Cup and Coming 4th in the Euro Gold series, Toby St George Matthews who was my team mate, and I ran at Riverside and Laguna Seca, the final two rounds of the US series. The stories are endless . . . I think we left both cars with Fred at the end of the year, came home to build new season's cars.

I can't remember when Rosberg tested with us, probably in 73 at Goodwood. He was driving for Kaimann of course and we beat him in Sweden - he beat us at Silverstone, Zolder and somewhere else. Fantastic racing with Kottulinsky who I later teamed up with at Daytona, he in ATS Lola, me in BH4 where we shared the front row, Brorson, Persson, Nillson, Schurti etc.
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In 1973, FSV was full of Tui BH3s, run by Roos, Philips, Dave McMillan, Van Beuren, Tom Reddy, Dick Cooney, Bert Everett, Jack Rabold, Eyerley (again just a single guest drive), John Benton, Bill Collins and John Morrison with Steve Griswold (yes, him!) in a Tui AM29.
Sorry John, I was transcribing so quickly I failed to make the connection.

Was your BH3 rented from Opert or had you brought it from Europe?

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Yes Hi Allan, we took our own BH3 cars from Europe but left them with Opert.
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