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19 Sep 2009, 10:41 (Ref:2543790) | #1 | ||
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GP2 Series 2009 - Portimao
So, final 2 rounds of the year. Not alot to play for anymore, but what a circuit to have the 'end of term' mess around!!!!!
Feature Race is at 2pm this afternoon: GRID Pos Driver Team Time Gap 1. Vitaly Petrov Addax 1m30.819s 2. Dani Clos Racing Engineering 1m30.859s + 0.040s 3. Nico Hulkenberg ART 1m30.884s + 0.065s 4. Lucas di Grassi Racing Engineering 1m31.067s + 0.248s 5. Davide Valsecchi Addax 1m31.129s + 0.310s 6. Roldan Rodriguez Piquet 1m31.389s + 0.570s 7. Alberto Valerio Piquet 1m31.418s + 0.599s 8. Pastor Maldonado ART 1m31.449s + 0.630s 9. Giedo van der Garde iSport 1m31.532s + 0.713s 10. Diego Nunes iSport 1m31.569s + 0.750s 11. Jerome d'Ambrosio DAMS 1m31.601s + 0.782s 12. Andreas Zuber Coloni 1m31.673s + 0.854s 13. Luca Filippi Super Nova 1m31.764s + 0.945s 14. Javier Villa Super Nova 1m31.812s + 0.993s 15. Sergio Perez Arden 1m31.886s + 1.067s 16. Luiz Razia Coloni 1m32.140s + 1.321s 17. Davide Rigon Trident 1m32.165s + 1.346s 18. Kamui Kobayashi DAMS 1m32.183s + 1.364s 19. Michael Herck DPR 1m32.376s + 1.557s 20 Edoardo Mortara Arden 1m32.807s + 1.988s 21. Karun Chandhok Ocean 1m32.765s + 1.946s 22. Johnny Cecotto DPR 1m32.807s + 1.988s 23. Ricardo Teixeira Trident 1m34.083s + 3.264s 24. Alvaro Parente Ocean |
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19 Sep 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2543823) | #2 | ||
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Um, why are Brit Eurosport showing today's race live and not tomorrow's?
Can't even see any listing for tomorrow's! |
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19 Sep 2009, 12:19 (Ref:2543834) | #3 | ||
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What time is the race?
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19 Sep 2009, 12:53 (Ref:2543847) | #4 | ||
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Tomorrows will be delayed at 3pm or 6:45pm by the looks of things...
Todays is in 5 mins time Last2Liftoff! |
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19 Sep 2009, 13:03 (Ref:2543851) | #5 | ||
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Yes, got that, thanks Peat.
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19 Sep 2009, 15:05 (Ref:2543879) | #6 | |
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I think it might already be time to give Hülkenberg the name of TOGF: That Other German Fellow.
Can't wait for him to get into F1 and secure a place at a proper team. Second seat at a Mercedes-led Brawn would be nice for example. |
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19 Sep 2009, 19:29 (Ref:2544010) | #7 | ||
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Herck finished (6th!) but was disqualified; Rigon, Teixeira, D'Ambrosio and Van der Garde were penalized by 25sec or dropping five positions from tomorrow's race.
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19 Sep 2009, 23:27 (Ref:2544093) | #8 | ||
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Just saw the race. The Hulk won in class!!! Petrov did what he can but he didn't catch better than 4th. Shame that Pérez and Parente clashed when both could have finished on points.
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20 Sep 2009, 10:21 (Ref:2544219) | #9 | |
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I was just going to pick Herck's drive as the surprise of the year and he got disqualified for ride height.
It was very entertaining race(beside Hulkenberg dominating like in A1 GP) and I like this track with all the elevation changes. |
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At the restart, when Safety Car entered into the pits, Zuber and some of his followers (including Valsecchi, Di Grassi and both ART cars) pushed their throttles before starting line; this headed for a drive-thru penalisation for all them, giving the first place in silver plate to Luca Filippi. The Italian finally conquered a win this year, followed by Pérez and Villa in the podium. |
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20 Sep 2009, 15:08 (Ref:2544366) | #13 | ||
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That restart was a mess. How did they define who to penalise??
Zuber should have been the only one. What are the rest gonna do? brake??? So stupid. There was a simular situation in A1GP at Portimao earlier this year to, the leader went too early and came across the SC, but in that instance, he braked and caused chaos behind him. And another thing - Petrov. He must be the oldest guy out there and all you ever seem to see is his bloody mum! She is always screaming and shouting, and today running uncontrolled around the pitlane after his shunt. He's 25 for god's sake! STOP THE BREAST FEEDING ALREADY! too much? |
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20 Sep 2009, 15:20 (Ref:2544372) | #14 | ||
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20 Sep 2009, 19:40 (Ref:2544497) | #15 | |
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What a rollercoster weekend for Herck, from the high of pts finish to DSQ and now this crash. Any news on him?
I think he had the same crash in Hockenheim 2006 with F3ES. Again the penalties were stupid. You have to rely on the leader for the restart, if the leader misjudges the situation, then you're just a victim. I can't see how the 5th placed driver will know that the SC is still out!? |
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21 Sep 2009, 07:28 (Ref:2544703) | #16 | ||
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The GP2 stewards have way too much time on their hands, I think pretty much every race this year has seen some sort of penalty.
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and also pretty much every driver.
i think it's di grassi who says on his twitter that the penalties for the safety car were nonsense, and that it was an error by the safety car driver rather than the drivers. can anyone who has managed to watch the race agree or disagree with that, or did the leader himself misjudge it? |
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21 Sep 2009, 16:11 (Ref:2545199) | #18 | ||
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The SC did seem to be entering the pits extraodrinarilly slowy i must say. But whats Zuber to do? Hit the brakes and send 2 or 3 cars behind cartwheeling into the (albiet EMPTY!) grandstands?
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Also, di Grassi actually appeared to slow, which resulted in him being passed by Kobayashi, so he should definitly have avoided a penalty as he atleast attempted to be cautious... |
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21 Sep 2009, 21:27 (Ref:2545482) | #21 | |
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I think Zuber didn't take into account that the last corners are very, very fast and he'll be much faster than the SC. But anyway, this Wiesman was quite slow.
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21 Sep 2009, 21:28 (Ref:2545488) | #22 | ||
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GP2's excessive penalties are getting ridiculous - they make the Formula One stewards look forgiving. Even Zuber's penalty was harsh, everybody else was simply avoiding an accident (or, at the very least, losing huge amounts of ground). It ruined the race for the paying customers.
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21 Sep 2009, 21:54 (Ref:2545509) | #23 | ||
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more appalling commentry on british eurosport (sunday race no Gareth Rees) its a shame Martin Haven cant be in 3 places at once
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22 Sep 2009, 05:26 (Ref:2545685) | #24 | ||
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I had always assumed that Martin Haven commentated from an office somewhere in the UK, so was suprised that he wasnt doing the F2 plus WSR & GP2 on sat/sun. A shame, because both the WSR and the GP2 commentator just didnt cut the mustard.
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He does but I think they send him out to the WTCC events, hence why he was covering F2 as well this weekend
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