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Old 2 Dec 2015, 22:04 (Ref:3595088)   #1396
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There have also been changes to the engine rules to allow previous year engines to be used in the future. This will allow Toro Rosso to use 2015 spec Ferrari motors next year. There will also be more engine tokens available up from 25 to 32 next year.

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Old 4 Dec 2015, 06:31 (Ref:3595396)   #1397
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The world motorsport council has given the Jean Todt and Bernie Eccelstone the power to make changes to F1. Whatever that means?

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122104
Case of, be careful what you wish for, it may come true?

Be interesting to see if they can finally sort out the problems.
Will Bernie be prepared to stick it to CVC and the Manufacturers?
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Old 11 Dec 2015, 14:44 (Ref:3597107)   #1398
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Mercedes' engineering director Aldo Costa, thinks Formula 1's major rules changes for 2017 will make overtaking more difficult.

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Old 11 Dec 2015, 16:20 (Ref:3597125)   #1399
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Mercedes' engineering director Aldo Costa, thinks Formula 1's major rules changes for 2017 will make overtaking more difficult.

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Is this a bit like going to the doctors? You see 3 different GPs and you get 3 different opinions...

Bottom line for me, less aero and more mechanical grip can only be a good thing.
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Old 12 Dec 2015, 00:23 (Ref:3597219)   #1400
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Mercedes' engineering director Aldo Costa, thinks Formula 1's major rules changes for 2017 will make overtaking more difficult.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122215
Thanks BJ, good article.

"By going to a car that has an enormous amount of downforce and a very complex aerodynamic shape, in our opinion it will make overtaking more difficult. That's our fear at this moment." Albert Costa; Mercedes

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"We want to win next year, but we also dream of winning through a big rule change.
"That would be fantastic for us as an organisation. It would be a demonstration of really strong engineering."

In other words

We are going to outspend everyone again?
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Old 12 Dec 2015, 09:01 (Ref:3597263)   #1401
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Off track a bit, but welcome to ROBORACE.

Sure it will be a big hit.


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Old 15 Jan 2016, 17:36 (Ref:3605147)   #1402
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According to this article, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122501, refueling could return in 2017.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 18:21 (Ref:3605165)   #1403
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According to this article, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122501, refueling could return in 2017.
If you want to see a car change places then wait for the fuel stop. Been there seen that idea no thanks.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 19:54 (Ref:3605191)   #1404
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If you want to see a car change places then wait for the fuel stop. Been there seen that idea no thanks.
I really want to be cynical and say "Pit fires really spice things up", but in reality WEC makes it work. But that is also not an argument for doing it in F1. Maybe they should include a driver change. Two cars, four drivers, two of the four are celebrity guest drivers. So Lewis gets out after running his maximum number of laps and then Elton John jumps in and finishes the race. Or something like that.

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Old 15 Jan 2016, 20:36 (Ref:3605212)   #1405
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If anything from the past is to be introduced,I'd much rather see active suspension return then refuelling.Or ground effect.Or H-pattern gear shifters.
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Old 15 Jan 2016, 20:43 (Ref:3605217)   #1406
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It's another, rather desperate way to spice up the ''action''.
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According to this article, http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122501, refueling could return in 2017.

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I really want to be cynical and say "Pit fires really spice things up", but in reality WEC makes it work. But that is also not an argument for doing it in F1. Maybe they should include a driver change. Two cars, four drivers, two of the four are celebrity guest drivers. So Lewis gets out after running his maximum number of laps and then Elton John jumps in and finishes the race. Or something like that.

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Ah, but there is an inherent danger in using refuelling in F1 which has to considered. Yes, they do refuel in WEC and other series, but they tend to be mostly endurance type races, where being stationary for 20 or 30 seconds is marginally insignificant in a race that is 6 hours or so long. But even so, how many times do we see a car leaving the "box" with part of the refueling jig still attached. In F1, the the whole refuel/wheel change process is accelerated by a factor of around 4 times, and so the danger factor likewise raises proportionally.

And, I'm afraid, Todt is talking out of his rear end about the costs of dragging all the refuelling rigs around the world. When they were in use previously, because of the ridiculous cost of the rigs themselves (which I am sure would be the same this time around), they had to be flown around between the fly-away races, adding yet another Boeing 747 freighter to the flying circus. That, Mr Todt, will cost one hell of a lot more than 50,000 for a whole year; I would guess that would cost more than that for each team, let alone 11 teams. And as they have to be transported empty, you are paying a huge amount of money for just moving a metal container of air around the world.

Basically, what Todt, et al are saying is that because they have messed up the regulations so much that the only way that they can think of re-introducing competition into a Grand Prix is by artificially "spicing up the show".
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Old 16 Jan 2016, 11:57 (Ref:3605336)   #1408
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"F1 about to score another own goal", Mark Hughes of Motorsport Magazine

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Everywhere you look people are making dumb decisions, but at least someone is addressing the real issues facing F1

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Are they going to give the mechanics a pay rise to reflect the increased risk in pitstops? It's stupid refuelling is still being considered
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