This is what touringcars should look like

[racer69]

Originally Posted by racer69

The Kings Cup is/was awarded to a 3 car team that completed the most laps during the race (all 3 cars put together). Grice, though not a part of the Mobil Holden Dealer Team during their ETC voyage in 1986, was added to the team on the friday of the race, when it was mentioned to them by someone (maybe the organisers) that they could be in contention for it. How much they acted like a team is debatable, the HDT helped Grice out with a seat or something.

I'll update my info as well.

It wasn't the organisers who alerted the MHDT and Grice about the Kings Cup, it was Australian journalist Phil Christensen and Channel 7 Australia commentator Mike Raymond (following the Aussie exploits at Spa) who, to quote a line from "Ironbark Legends : Peter Brock" "ensured the two Mobil Commodore's plus the Grice car were nominated as the 'Australian Commodore Team'.

Never two late to find the facts

[kmchow]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Ideal? Ooh, tough one. The BMW 635s looked great, but, call me mad if you will, I like wings and skirts. The Audi A4 Quattros from 1996-96 looked great, and I always liked the last of the BTCC Mondeos. Any post-94 3-series, too.

Yeah, I've always like the look of the Mondeo more than the Vectra, especially the 97-99 Mondeos. I didn't like the ST cars in '00 b/c they started to allow overly wide wheel arches?

[ravaglia]

All the Group A cars, especially the 87 works BMW M3 and the 83 Marlboro BMW 635 csi.

[lj79]

Eterna 635 from 83 - Stuck / Brun

[alfasud]

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

I've just been advised that I made an error by omission. I forgot that there was an interim homologation on August 1, 1985 for the 4980cc engine and Getrag 5 speed, but no other changes. The full house homologation special with all the good bits was homolgated on 1/1/86.

Getting slighly offtopic now... but Group A history interests me and relates to seperate a discussion I've been having about Group A homologation. Was this "interim homologation" you talk of, a full international homologation from the FIA or granted locally by CAMS for the 1985 Australian Touring Car Championship and the endurance races such as Bathurst?

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by alfasud

Was this "interim homologation" you talk of, a full international homologation from the FIA or granted locally by CAMS for the 1985 Australian Touring Car Championship and the endurance races such as Bathurst?

When I said interim homologation, I meant an interim measure by Holden, as the parts were not ready/available to homolgate the 1986 version any earlier, but the smaller engine and 5 speed were needed to give the cars a chance of being competitive in the end of year endurnace races. I don't know if it was full FIA homologation or dispensation from CAMS. I'm inclined to believe it was the former.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by V8moz

It was Klaus Niedzwiedz who raced the Zakspeed Mustang at a "Rennsport Trophy" meeting at Hockenheim, not Ludwig

Love auctions.

Car as raced by Dick Johnson Racing at Bathurst 1985 with Dick Johnson teaming with ex F1 driver Larry Perkins.
The auction:
http://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/...0C25H22CS995TM

The car in Australia:
http://www.djr.com.au/jim-beam-racin...m-Mustangs.asp

[Graham Clayton]

If you are talking about an actual "touring" car:

http://www.albanyclassic.com/images/...1%203800cc.JPG

[FIRE]

Don't agree