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Old 5 Aug 2004, 21:51 (Ref:1057552)   #101
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Phoenix 1 - you've got Heidfeld at Sauber, which is speculation. Massa is confirmed at the team, according to Pater Sauber.
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Old 5 Aug 2004, 22:13 (Ref:1057605)   #102
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Where would Ferrari go when Peter Sauber changes into becoming Mercedes 2nd team?
Hmmm, very good point, Sauber started as a Mercedes team, could be returning ?

The 'flirtation' with the Mercedes DTM drivers gives rise to some speculation.
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Old 5 Aug 2004, 22:27 (Ref:1057623)   #103
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Kicking-back your right. My mistake...

Ferrari: Schumacher/Barrichello
Williams:Button/Webber
Renault: Fisichella/Alonso
McLaren: Raikkonen/JPM
Toyota: R.Schumacher /
Sauber: Massa /
Jaguar:
BAR:
Jordan:
Minardi:

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Ferrari: Schumacher/Barrichello
Williams:Button/Webber
Renault: Fisichella/Alonso
McLaren: Raikkonen/JPM
Toyota: R.Schumacher /DC or Trulli
Sauber: Massa /Heidfeld or Paffet
Jaguar: DC or Trulli/££
BAR: Sato/Trulli or Davidson
Jordan: ££/££ - unless taken over then rookies
Minardi: ££/££
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Old 5 Aug 2004, 23:03 (Ref:1057670)   #104
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There's still some drama to play out in the silly season. One BAR seat now open, one Toyota seat open, one Sauber seat open and two Jag seats open. Oh yeah, and BAR vs. Williams lawsuit. Should be interesting.
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 08:54 (Ref:1057926)   #105
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I think we do not disagree on this, and Jos was right refusing Minardi's seat. Then again with the support of Ferrari Minardi could make a step forward, which could be reason enough for Jos to change his mind about returning to Minardi.
I can't see any reason for Jos Verstappen returning to Formula One. Signing with a mid-fielder or higher is completely out of his reach, and Jordan or Minardi are no issue as his sponsors all backed down on him.
It's all his own fault, he could have become a test driver with a better team but instead he prefered to fill up the back of the grid. Sometimes an F1 driver has to gamble, and Jos obviously made the wrong choice.

Maybe he can make HHF's life a bit harder in DTM
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 10:30 (Ref:1058026)   #106
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Ferrari
M.Schumacher
R.Barrichello

Williams
J.Button
M.Webber

McLaren
K.Raikkonen
J.Montoya

BAR
A.Davidson
T.Sato

Renault
F.Alonso
G.Fisichella

Sauber
G. Paffett
V. Luizzi


Toyota
R.Schumacher
J.Trulli

Jordan
N.Heidfeld
R.Briscoe

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G.Bruni
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 10:32 (Ref:1058029)   #107
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 22:46 (Ref:1058868)   #108
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what happened to Massa luke?
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Old 6 Aug 2004, 22:58 (Ref:1058877)   #109
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Here's my guess
Ferrari
Michael Shumacher
Rubens Barichiello

Williams
Jenson Button
Mark Webber

McLaren
Kimi Kaikkonen
Juan-Pablo Montoya

Renault
Fernano Alonso
Giancarlo Fisichella

BAR
Takuma Sato
Mika Hakkinen

Toyota
Ralf Shumacher
Jarno Trulli

Sauber
Nick Heidfeld
Filipe Masa

Jordan
Ryan Briscoe
Timo Glock

Jaguar
Gary Paffett
Christian Klien

Minardi
Gianmaria Bruni
Bjorn Wirdheim
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Old 10 Aug 2004, 07:04 (Ref:1061799)   #110
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I'm surprised this hasn't been updated since Button's infamous "move" on Dave Richards, so I'll have a shot:

Ferrari
M. Schumacher
R. Barrichello

Renault
F. Alonso
G. Fisichella

BMW-WilliamsF1
J. Button (assuming BAR's challenge to his move fails)
M. Webber

BAR-Honda
D. Coulthard (if I were DC and/or Martin Brundle, I'd be on the phone to Dave Richards quick-smart, offering the services of the Scot to BAR for '05 ASAP)
T. Sato

McLaren-Mercedes
K. Raikkonen
J.P. Montoya

Toyota
R. Schumacher
J. Trulli

Sauber
N. Heidfeld
F. Massa

Jaguar
B. Wirdheim
C. Klien

Jordan
R. Briscoe
T. Glock

Minardi
G. Bruni
R. Firman
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Old 11 Aug 2004, 09:13 (Ref:1062857)   #111
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When was Nick Heidfeld announced or presumed he was going back to Sauber?
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Old 11 Aug 2004, 09:14 (Ref:1062858)   #112
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That's just a guess some people are making.

I don't think he'll go back there, a year after being punted.
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Old 11 Aug 2004, 17:48 (Ref:1063193)   #113
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Just updating my predictions since the last batch of changes:

Ferrari
M Schumacher
Barrichello

Renault
Alonso
Fisichella (previously Trulli)

BAR-Honda
Sato
Davidson (previously Button)

Williams-BMW
Webber
Button (previously Fisichella)

McLaren-Mercedes
Raikkonen
Montoya

Sauber-Petronas
Massa
Paffett (previously Davidson) (maybe Liuzzi)

Toyota
Trulli (previously Coulthard)
R Schumacher

Jaguar-Cosworth
Coulthard (previously Wirdheim)
Heidfeld (maybe Liuzzi if Heidfeld stays at Jordan, or Wirdheim if Liuzzi then goes to Sauber)

Dubai-Toyota
Briscoe (previously Glock)
Albers (previously Verstappen) (maybe Heidfeld if he's not too ****ed off with EJ for stopping his Williams deal, and can see a positive future for the team)

Minardi-Cosworth
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Old 12 Aug 2004, 16:06 (Ref:1064035)   #114
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ooo this is all very exciting......My go

Ferrari
M.Schumacher (GER)
R.Barrichello (BRA)

Williams
M.Webber (AUS)
J.Button (GB)

B.A.R.
T.Sato (JAP)
D.coulthard (GB)

McLaren
K.Raikkonen (FIN)
J.P.Montoya (COL)

Renault
F.Alonso (SPA)
G.Fisichella (ITA)

Sauber
C.Klien (OST)
N.Heidfeld (GER)

Jaguar
R.Briscoe (AUS)
T.Glock (GER)

Jordan
V.Liuzzi (ITA)
G.Bruni (ITA)

Minardi
A.Lloyd (GB)
F.Del Monte (ITA)

WHAT DO YOU THINK??
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 12:39 (Ref:1072655)   #115
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Ferrari -M Schumacher/Barrichello

Renault - Alonso/Fisichella

BAR-Honda - Sato/Davidson/JV

Williams-BMW - Webber/Button

McLaren-Mercedes - Raikkonen/Montoya

Sauber-Petronas - Massa/JV

Toyota - Trulli/R Schumacher

Jaguar-Cosworth - Coulthard/Heidfeld/Klien

Jordan Dubai-Toyota - Briscoe/Heidfeld

Minardi-Honda/Cosworth (Toyota/Honda rivals so if Toyota show how good they can make Jordan why not Honda help Minardi with a few designs etc.. (see Sauber/Ferrari) - Get Sato in there and maybe Paffett or Coulthard and it could really go places.
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 13:11 (Ref:1072683)   #116
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Minardi
G. Bruni
R. Firman
and the team will be renamed Van Diemen Ford??
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 06:36 (Ref:1074111)   #117
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Ferrari
M.Schumacher (GER)
R.Barrichello (BRA)

Williams
M.Webber (AUS)
J.Button (GB)

B.A.R.
T.Sato (JAP)
M.Haakinen (FIN)/A.Davison (GB)

McLaren
K.Raikkonen (FIN)
J.P.Montoya (COL)

Renault
F.Alonso (SPA)
G.Fisichella (ITA)

Sauber
F.Masa (BRA)
S.Bourdais (FRA)


Jaguar
D.Coultard (GB)
$$

Jordan
N. Heidfeld (GER)
R. Briscoe (AUS)

Minardi
B.Wirdheim (SWE)
$$

Toyota
R.Schumacher (GER)
J. Trulli (ITA)
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 21:26 (Ref:1074633)   #118
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Come on guys ! Haakinen is dead. Let it rest in peace. The guys is in retired and his the most boring guy i never seen is racing !
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 21:30 (Ref:1074640)   #119
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Hakkinen is in talks with BAR. Personally I would see a JV and Mika partnership as a good one so long as they both kept their salaries down, JV did some more commercial work and more money came into the team. Hakkinen is known to be pretty poor in the midfield but get him dicing with MS and he can and will go for it. (Just ask Zonta what went passed in on his left while something red went past the other side slower!)
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Old 22 Aug 2004, 21:33 (Ref:1074644)   #120
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There's no chance Mika will come back, IMO.
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Come on guys ! Haakinen is dead. Let it rest in peace. The guys is in retired and his the most boring guy i never seen is racing !
Hakkinen? His speed and his racing could hardly be described as boring. Himself, as a person, well I guess you missed the wry smile.

However, yes, he is gone (not dead!). Off having fun and not being boring.
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I personally found hakkinen quite humorous!

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Old 22 Aug 2004, 21:53 (Ref:1074673)   #124
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Exactly.

He's just playing the media at the moment, and probably having a good laugh.
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