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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:08 (Ref:1073121)   #1
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Its a Conspiracy cries Jarno!!!
Jarno Trulli has stated that Renault may purposely be making Jarno's car slower to justify Giancarlo's signing!!

http://www.f1i.com/articles/ARTICLE_572935.html

i think it is no secret that Alonso is the no.1 driver despite Trullis great earl;y season but would they actually make his car go slower???:confused:
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:18 (Ref:1073135)   #2
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didn't the same happen to Button once it was revealed he was being replaced at Renault?
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1073140)   #3
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Well it will not be the first time a team makes a driver look bad. Certainly has happened before. Especially during silly season. But, it's also not the first time a driver is complaining because his contract ends and who will leave anyway.
For example: Personally I don't like the attitude of Juan Pablo, badmouthing about his current employer. Unprofessional.
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:43 (Ref:1073165)   #4
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If this is the case, then it's cutting a fine line not to lose the grip on 2nd in the WCC. Maybe if the gap from BAR was larger. Then again... :confused:
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:44 (Ref:1073166)   #5
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Jos only ever complains about employers after they've sacked him, which is obviously much more professional.

Renault haven't got a very good record in driver relations; this is the 3rd time i 4 years that their higest scoring driver hasn't been retained for the next year. They need to jsutify themselves somehow...
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 20:47 (Ref:1073169)   #6
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Jos is usually sacked before he has the chance to speak.
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:01 (Ref:1073188)   #7
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funny thing is tho hes still ahead of alsonso in the championship!....HAHA
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:12 (Ref:1073200)   #8
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Jos only ever complains about employers after they've sacked him, which is obviously much more professional.
True, Jos made the same mistake driving at Arrows and Minardi. But, boots, your reaction is very cheap. Why bring up Jos in this topic the way you did. Is it because i am in it? Not my cup of tea!
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:23 (Ref:1073208)   #9
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Not very professional, Boots!
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:44 (Ref:1073230)   #10
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I know it's just Minardi, but Jos would have gotten the seat if he wanted it. Despite what he has said about the team and despite the fact he doesn't bring as much cash to the team as other drivers. Means he did something right.

And no, I'm not a even fan of him.
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:52 (Ref:1073239)   #11
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Is my alzheimer's getting worse than I thought? Is there some mysterious link between Jarno, Renault and Jos Verstappen that I've missed?!

Jarno ought to shut up and get on with driving. Not even Briatore would intentionally handicap one of his cars and risk his second place in the manufacturer's. Do you know how much those manufacturer's positions are WORTH to the teams?!
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:54 (Ref:1073241)   #12
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Renault haven't got a very good record in driver relations; this is the 3rd time i 4 years that their higest scoring driver hasn't been retained for the next year. They need to jsutify themselves somehow...
So Alonso is out next year then?
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Old 20 Aug 2004, 21:59 (Ref:1073245)   #13
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No.

He'll be there for a good few seasons.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 03:31 (Ref:1073376)   #14
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Flavio is a dodgy, dodgy bugger.

We shouldn't forget that.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 11:30 (Ref:1073572)   #15
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I agree,Flav is soooooo dodgy
He's proven to have done it before and there are many situations where he's doing weird stuff with his drivers (where we can't prove it)

No,he's not deliberately nobbling one car (& thence his team).What he's doing is giving giving the best support/car parts to the other driver.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 11:36 (Ref:1073577)   #16
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Alonso's staying because he's a Flavio-contracted driver. He'd only go if he lost form to the point that Flavio wanted Webber in the car.

Flavio's priority isn't the Rneault team, it's his own wallet. If he feels he can do more for that by helping his driver at the expense of Renault's driver, he'll do it.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 11:50 (Ref:1073586)   #17
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Don't believe anything you hear about Flavio. The truth is always much, much worse. .But seriously a shame for Trulli if it's true. He has been in a good form this season.
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Flavio is a dodgy, dodgy bugger.

We shouldn't forget that.
So you wouldn't buy a car off him then??
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Re: Its a Conspiracy cries Jarno!!!
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Jarno Trulli has stated that Renault may purposely be making Jarno's car slower to justify Giancarlo's signing!!
As others have said, same thing seemed to happen to Jenson when it was announced that he was leaving.

However, i'd be very surprised if Flavour Flav would want to justify Fisi's signing over getting 2nd in the WCC.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 13:39 (Ref:1073629)   #20
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If Renault were to change the speeds of the cars they wouldn't make Jarno's slower they would make Ferando's faster.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 14:02 (Ref:1073641)   #21
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Which, fundamentally, is the same thing.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 14:08 (Ref:1073646)   #22
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Not relly because there keeping his the same but making Ferns faster.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 14:14 (Ref:1073653)   #23
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Not relly because there keeping his the same but making Ferns faster.
Knowlesy is right here. It is fundamentally the same thing. Every team boss is trying to improve the car's performance. When Fernando's car is improved, while nothing changes in the car of his team mate, what's the difference?
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 16:48 (Ref:1073719)   #24
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They have done this before giving Wurx an over weight car for most of the season.
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Old 21 Aug 2004, 17:00 (Ref:1073734)   #25
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In the case of Wurz, the nut behind the wheel was overweight, as they say.
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