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Old 17 Oct 2021, 13:19 (Ref:4078879)   #26
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Yes, after I posted that I forgot about that. I should have said ‘ignoring duplicate GPs on the same circuit’
Understood - and I think I get the point you were making.
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Old 17 Oct 2021, 22:55 (Ref:4078910)   #27
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Australia will have the GP this time

I have already optimistically booked accom for the Spa-Zandvoort-Monza triple header
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Old 18 Oct 2021, 11:07 (Ref:4078950)   #28
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Seven of the host countries have dreadful human rights records and there are some whose record on green issues is quite poor as well.
Should F1 be taking a stand?

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Old 18 Oct 2021, 12:26 (Ref:4078959)   #29
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Seven of the host countries have dreadful human rights records and there are some whose record on green issues is quite poor as well.
Should F1 be taking a stand?
Normally I would say no, it isn't really the sports place.

But when you fly rainbow banners, shout about everyone being equal, champion green tech and introduce women series to promoted gender quality...it becomes hard to ignore these things.

So normally, no. But F1 takes a stand at every other time. So, yes.
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Old 18 Oct 2021, 12:37 (Ref:4078960)   #30
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I'm with you there, it's on the consumer to partake of those things who support similar goals (agendas seems to buzzwordy there) and not those who clash. However, when you make some of those things your deal then you open yourself up for claims of hypocrisy.
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Old 18 Oct 2021, 14:37 (Ref:4078990)   #31
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It's also possible to pick the right time and place to make a stand in public. In private, we've no idea what discussions take place.
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as a Canadian it is difficult for me to point the finger at the human rights violations of other nations given my own country's shame. while some would say this is all past behaviour but what was and is done to the Indigenous communities, particularly the residential school system which extended well into the 1980s and 90s and the sheer number of dead children found in unmarked graves, speaks to a level of horror which is recognized as a generations long pogrom of genocide carried out by our own governments against our own citizens and whose legacy is still deeply felt today.

as for the environment, Canada ranks near the top, if not number 1, in household waste produced. our affluence allows us to consume and our cheap energy (much of which came at the expense of those same Indigenous communities) allows us to consume even more.

so should Canada be removed from the calendar as well?

difficult questions to be sure. perhaps one made even more difficult for the Canadian GP because of the support/funding/subsidies it receives from the various branches of gov't.

i have no answers!

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Old 18 Oct 2021, 23:27 (Ref:4079063)   #33
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I'm not sure there's any country in the world that's above reproach.
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Seven of the host countries have dreadful human rights records and there are some whose record on green issues is quite poor as well.
Should F1 be taking a stand?
In a different context - F1 has - Formula 1 has terminated its contract with the Russian Grand Prix.
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Seven of the host countries have dreadful human rights records and there are some whose record on green issues is quite poor as well.
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Name any country that hosts a GP and I guarantee they will have violated human rights to an extent that will make your hair curl.
Every country seems to set standards of hypocrisy to suit whatever agenda they are trying to push according to the amount of force they can bring to back up their position.
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Name any country that hosts a GP and I guarantee they will have violated human rights to an extent that will make your hair curl.
Every country seems to set standards of hypocrisy to suit whatever agenda they are trying to push according to the amount of force they can bring to back up their position.
Shhhh, how dare you bring up history sucks for everyone
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I would like to see Sepang take Sochi's place.
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