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Old 29 Nov 2014, 10:18 (Ref:3479861)   #26
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ART Grand Prix to run two Mercedes next year... interesting addition
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Old 29 Nov 2014, 11:16 (Ref:3479875)   #27
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ART Grand Prix to run two Mercedes next year... interesting addition
Indeed. I would have thought that Mercedes would give HTP the additional two Mercs but ART is surely an equally good addiction. The only downside for me is, is that we're going to see more drivers from Formula Three coming up, instead of GTs. On the other hand, The ladder consisting of Formula Three - DTM - Formula One makes perfect sense from Mercedes' point of view. Well, it'd make even more sense, if we'd seen more drivers from DTM in Formula One, but I guess Mercedes is just training the drivers, not funding them...
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Old 30 Nov 2014, 09:27 (Ref:3480188)   #28
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^^^ HTP themselves are also not amused aparantly. In this atricle (in Dutch) about the entry of ART in the DTM, it is mentioned that, roughly translated, "they will walk in different direction", and that "announcements will be made very soon".
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Old 30 Nov 2014, 22:32 (Ref:3480492)   #29
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They chose Bentley for their GT3 program
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Old 1 Dec 2014, 14:18 (Ref:3480745)   #30
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Old 2 Dec 2014, 21:55 (Ref:3481241)   #31
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The Hungary round could be dropped after one year: http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/...-14120101.html

-_- Same old, same old. Even though I'd argue that the manufacturers should cover the losses for at least one or two years. Because consistency wouldn't hurt the DTM schedule in my opinion.
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 11:11 (Ref:3481425)   #32
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I think, DTM is a complete loss, if there are running only former F3-drivers, which found no budget for Formula 1...
Of course they are talented drivers, but no charisma/character, so no real "crowd pleasers"...

Hungarians will only attend, if Norbi would have a drive in DTM...
If not, other racing series in hungary might produce more fights...
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 12:41 (Ref:3481451)   #33
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2015 DTM calendar*

1st to 3rd May Hockenheimring
29th to 31st May Lausitzring
26th to 28th June Norisring
10th to 12th July Zandvoort (NED)
31st July to 2nd August Red-Bull-Ring (AUT)
28th to 30th August Moscow Raceway (RUS)
11th to 13th September Oschersleben
25th to 27th September Nürburgring
16th to 18th October Hockenheimring
* Subject to approval by FIA and DMSB.

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Old 3 Dec 2014, 13:04 (Ref:3481457)   #34
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Zandvoort on the calendar!! Yeahhh. Even though last year wasn't scheduled, there were a lot of spectators and a great race.
2 races a weekend is great, but I think they should both be held on the sunday.
The last touch to make the DTM more attractive is to put 30 cars on the grid (10 for each manufacturer)!!!!
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Old 3 Dec 2014, 18:44 (Ref:3481559)   #35
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Well, 9x2 is still more than 10x1. Perhaps the best decision the DTM has done in years. Well done!
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 01:57 (Ref:3481686)   #36
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I rather enjoyed the fight at Budapest this year. It's a pity.
However I do remain sceptical about him how much better a show next year can be. No tire differences. Even with two sprint races, you are not gonna see plenty of actions.
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Are the races on Saturday and Sunday going to be the same length or will the Sunday race be longer?
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Old 4 Dec 2014, 13:37 (Ref:3481840)   #38
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I would prefer a 50km qualifying race and a 100km feature race.
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Old 5 Dec 2014, 09:55 (Ref:3482154)   #39
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Mercedes testing/tested 5 guys:

Charles Pic
Esteban Ocon
Felix Rosenqvist
Lucas Auer
Maxi Gotz

Are any 2014 Merc drivers known to be in danger of losing his seat, or are these 5 just going for the extra Mercedes?

I have to be honest and say I rate the BMW testers slightly higher overall (apart from Gotz) for a touring car ride.
I think now is the right time for BMW drop Hand and Tomczyk (as rumoured). They just haven't quite 'done it'.
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Old 5 Dec 2014, 11:58 (Ref:3482188)   #40
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I really think Rosenqvist will finally go out of F3 and join DTM (with Mucke probably?)

Looks like BMW wants again a British driver in after Priaulx... (testing Harvey, Bird, Blomqvist & Lynn).

With the other KFC-driver Giovinazzi testing @ Audi it would not surprise me to see at least 1 joining DTM and the other 2 going to FR3.5 with Carlin..

Audi also tested GT-Drivers; Laurens Vanthoor, Marco Mapelli & Nicki Thiim.
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a couple of months ago i heard a nice little rumour that ocon would do a vietoris and do a combined gp2 and dtm season. there's nothing to say he wouldn't cope with it either.
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Old 5 Dec 2014, 13:02 (Ref:3482205)   #42
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a couple of months ago i heard a nice little rumour that ocon would do a vietoris and do a combined gp2 and dtm season. there's nothing to say he wouldn't cope with it either.
He should do it next year, while he still can.
After that comes F1 and that means driving in other categories is over until he leaves F1 (unless he drives for Force India).

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I really think Rosenqvist will finally go out of F3 and join DTM (with Mucke probably?)

Looks like BMW wants again a British driver in after Priaulx... (testing Harvey, Bird, Blomqvist & Lynn).

With the other KFC-driver Giovinazzi testing @ Audi it would not surprise me to see at least 1 joining DTM and the other 2 going to FR3.5 with Carlin..

Audi also tested GT-Drivers; Laurens Vanthoor, Marco Mapelli & Nicki Thiim.
Thiim and particularly Vanthoor would be able to do well in DTM I feel.
Who is Mapelli? I couldn't find anything that wasn't in Italian.

I feel more GT drivers should get DTM tests (as opposed to most of the testers being F3 guys), especially as all 3 DTM brands have a big presence in GTs.
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Old 5 Dec 2014, 14:02 (Ref:3482233)   #44
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Thiim and particularly Vanthoor would be able to do well in DTM I feel.
Who is Mapelli? I couldn't find anything that wasn't in Italian.

I feel more GT drivers should get DTM tests (as opposed to most of the testers being F3 guys), especially as all 3 DTM brands have a big presence in GTs.
Mapelli is an Italian GT Driver, he raced in Ferrari Challenge before heading to GT's with Porsche & Audi.. not the biggest name indeed.

And yes, i think Vanthoor and Thiim would do well for sure, look at Maxime Martin, winning a race in his first season already!
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Lucas Auer
Maxi Gotz

Are any 2014 Merc drivers known to be in danger of losing his seat, or are these 5 just going for the extra Mercedes?

I have to be honest and say I rate the BMW testers slightly higher overall (apart from Gotz) for a touring car ride.
I think now is the right time for BMW drop Hand and Tomczyk (as rumoured). They just haven't quite 'done it'.
I think that Petrov may loose his seat to Rosenqvist.

Then i would see Di Resta combined with a french driver at ART GP.
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a couple of months ago i heard a nice little rumour that ocon would do a vietoris and do a combined gp2 and dtm season. there's nothing to say he wouldn't cope with it either.

It would mean a 42 races calendar for 2015.

In fact it is not the craziest fact out there. It is the fact that he would run back to back on 7 consecutive week-ends.

April 19 Bahrain GP
May 1-3 Hockenheim (D)
May 10 Spanish GP
May 24 Monaco GP
May 29-31 Lausitzring (D)
June 21 Austrian GP
June 26-28 Norisring (D
July 5 British GP
July 10-12 Zandvoort (NL)
July 19 German GP
July 26 Hungarian GP
July 31-August 2 Red Bull Ring (AUT

August 23 Belgian GP
August 28-30 Moscow Raceway (RUS
September 6 Italian GP
September 11-13 Oschersleben (D)
September 25-27 Nurburgring (D
October 11 Russian GP
October 16-18 Hockenheim (D)
November 29 Abu Dhabi GP


Before and after the calendar is rather easy. Few back to backs.

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Maxi Gotz

Are any 2014 Merc drivers known to be in danger of losing his seat, or are these 5 just going for the extra Mercedes?

I have to be honest and say I rate the BMW testers slightly higher overall (apart from Gotz) for a touring car ride.
I think now is the right time for BMW drop Hand and Tomczyk (as rumoured). They just haven't quite 'done it'.
Joey, probably yes, but Martin Tomczyk? Hopefully not. As a 2011 champion, I'm sure he just need a bit more time to make himself comfortable at BMW.
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Joey, probably yes, but Martin Tomczyk? Hopefully not. As a 2011 champion, I'm sure he just need a bit more time to make himself comfortable at BMW.
Tomczyk has also done rather well in the 2nd half of the season. As for Hand though...he's had three seasons now, so maybe a return to TUSC or a switch to SuperGT would be good for him.

As for Mercedes: Here's hoping that Maxi Götz finally gets a DTM seat. He deserves it!
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Tomczyk has also done rather well in the 2nd half of the season. As for Hand though...he's had three seasons now, so maybe a return to TUSC or a switch to SuperGT would be good for him.

As for Mercedes: Here's hoping that Maxi Götz finally gets a DTM seat. He deserves it!

He does deserve it indeed but I'm gonna be selfish and hope he stays in GTs .

So Joey Hand is out at BMW? I see no room for him in their TUSCC program. I hope they hang onto Tomczyk instead as he has shown better form recently as you say this season. Hand has had a couple of seasons now in DTM and really hasn't impressed.
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So Joey Hand is out at BMW? I see no room for him in their TUSCC program. I hope they hang onto Tomczyk instead as he has shown better form recently as you say this season. Hand has had a couple of seasons now in DTM and really hasn't impressed.
With Andy Priaulx switching over to the ELMS with Marc VDS, there is now a seat to fill in the TUSCC.
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