Remaining Seats

Wrex · 3 Nov 2002, 10:29 (Ref:420601)

Well, with Jags announcement, the recent daMatta leak, and EJ swearing that Sato's seat is safe, we are left with 2 seats at Minardi, and if by some miricle Arrows survive, 4.

I think Jos is looking good for the Minardi seat, and if Arrows fold, Bernoldi and his Red Bull money will pretty attractive for the other one.

I can't see Irvine being either offered or willing to accept a drive in either team, but does Pedro come with a bag of money these days?

Stoddart has said that he's interested in Wilson, and says the PS03 Minardi cockpit will be big enough for the driver. Anthony Davidson must be considered also, but I think the final decision will still come down to money.

Maybe Mazzacash is set for a return.

If Arrows survive (and I don't think they will) they really will have to settle for Stoddarts left overs. With no engine, tyres or staff, this could be problem Walkinshaw could only wish for.

So who's getting what seat?

*formula3* · 3 Nov 2002, 10:51 (Ref:420615)

well, don´t know who gets the seats, but i dont think that mazzacash will come back, wasn´t he looking for an IRL drive?
i guess that verstappen gets a minardi cockpit and hopefully one young talented driver, wilson or davidson...

DNQ · 3 Nov 2002, 10:56 (Ref:420621)

Arrows 2000 revival with PDLR bringing Repsol money to Minardi, Jos the Boss in the other seat driving for free.

Red · 3 Nov 2002, 11:05 (Ref:420630)

One of the Minardi seats is for that Zlobyn guy I believe. That is if Minardi-Gazprom is a sure deal. It is, isn't it? :confused:

*formula3* · 3 Nov 2002, 11:13 (Ref:420634)

wasn´t he just for a testdriver? i think it doesn´t make any sense to replace yoong with zlobin...even alex would do much better i suppose

Red · 3 Nov 2002, 11:19 (Ref:420636)

Most probably, but actually it would make some sense. It will be the first Russian in Formula 1 and the Gazprom will be not much different from KL-Yoong situation. Just speculationg.

Mark Webber · 3 Nov 2002, 11:19 (Ref:420637)

Love to see Mr Pollack bring Arrow's back , Didn't I see Porsche's name thrown around some where?
as for Mr Stoddard's Team Aussie I think its great to see the BOSS back And if it was me PDLR would be in the other seat
Jos = $ & PDLR= $ + Marks great 5 place = $ which = a very happy Mr Stoddard and a better team Aussie

Valve Bounce · 3 Nov 2002, 12:25 (Ref:420654)

I suppose we all hope that Arrows, by some miraculous intervention, will be there next year, but really I don't think so. The only unknown is what engine, if any that Minardi will be able to get.

steve nielsen · 3 Nov 2002, 12:34 (Ref:420658)

Quote:

Originally posted by Red
One of the Minardi seats is for that Zlobyn guy I believe. That is if Minardi-Gazprom is a sure deal. It is, isn't it? :confused:

Nope, he might be a testdriver, but he is even slower(hard to believe , but stil SLOWER) than Yoong, at the Mugello test in september he was 13.5(thirtheen and a half!!!) seconds slower than Schumacher.

The Gazprom deal is done, but there does'nt have to be a Russian driver(thank god for that, Zlobin and Maslov would be lapped every 7 or 8 laps)

steve nielsen · 3 Nov 2002, 12:36 (Ref:420660)

OK:

Minardi Cosworth

Jos Verstappen
Justin Wilson

and Arrows??

Thomas Enge and Sebastien Bourdais maybe??

*formula3* · 3 Nov 2002, 12:46 (Ref:420667)

when they bring enough money why not, but if arrows comes back they will definately choose because of sponsorship, and bernoldi could also stay

ASCII Man · 3 Nov 2002, 14:47 (Ref:420716)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
thank god for that, Zlobin and Maslov would be lapped every 7 or 8 laps

And maybe even get black flagged for driving too slow...

As for Bourdais, i hope he gets a good testdrive at Renault next year.

*formula3* · 3 Nov 2002, 14:56 (Ref:420722)

zlobin will never get lapped! not even when schmu is in lap 50!
shall i tell you why? he will not qualify...the only thing zlobin will drive is his road car to go home!

*formula3* · 3 Nov 2002, 15:07 (Ref:420729)

btw, there are a couple of free cockpits as testdrivers, who will this be?

Nicholas · 3 Nov 2002, 17:27 (Ref:420806)

If Jos is fairly tall, it might allow Wilson a way in...?

ASCII Man · 3 Nov 2002, 17:41 (Ref:420811)

Jos isn't as tall as Wilson...

Yoong Montoya · 3 Nov 2002, 20:42 (Ref:420920)

Zlobin sounds as bad as Deletraz. I hope Minardi can find someone better than him.

Armco Bender · 4 Nov 2002, 03:55 (Ref:421141)

Hard to see Arrows rising from the dead at this stage,even if some white knight backer came to their rescue a start in 2003 at this stage would be as likely as Elvis returning.

f1manoz · 4 Nov 2002, 07:27 (Ref:421201)

Remaining seats:

Minardi-Ford

2 drivers with loadsa money

Arrows (a big IF they return)

2 drivers with more money than the Minardi lot

RussianFriend · 4 Nov 2002, 10:48 (Ref:421290)

Quote:

Originally posted by Red
Most probably, but actually it would make some sense. It will be the first Russian in Formula 1 and the Gazprom will be not much different from KL-Yoong situation. Just speculationg.

Oh, no!

I believe we deserve better one to be first russian driver in F1. Zlobin will be teh shame for Russia. Let him driver test car, this is enough.

badoer fan · 4 Nov 2002, 16:51 (Ref:421544)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
OK:

Minardi Cosworth

Jos Verstappen

Oh no! Does that mean we have to agree in future?

CleanTone · 4 Nov 2002, 20:32 (Ref:421691)

How about a 2004 driver for Minardi: Zsolt Slowgartner. He's bought a Coloni drive. What next?

mac · 4 Nov 2002, 23:48 (Ref:421825)

This is how I see it:

FERRARI
1. Michael Schumacher
2. Rubens Barrichello

Test drivers:
Luca Badoer
Luciano Burti/Felipe Massa???

WILLIAMS-BMW
3. Juan Pablo Montoya
4. Ralf Schumacher

Test driver:
Marc Gene

McLAREN-MERCEDES
5. David Coulthard
6. Kimi Raikkonen

Test driver:
Alexander Wurz

RENAULT
7. Jarno Trulli
8. Fernando Alonso

Test driver:
Sebastien Bourdais???

SAUBER PETRONAS
9. Nick Heidfeld
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen

Test driver:
????????????

JORDAN FORD
11. Giancarlo Fisichella
12. Takuma Sato/Eddie Irvine/ Felipe Massa/ Anthony Davidson???

Test driver:
????????????

JAGUAR
14. Mark Webber
15. Antonio Pizzonia

Test driver:
????????????

HONDA
16. Jacques Villeneuve
17. Jenson Button

Test driver:
Anthony Davidson/Takuma Sato/ Ryo Fukuda???

MINARDI FORD
18. Jos Verstappen???
19. Justin Wilson???

Test drivers:
Matteo Bobbi
Zlobin

TOYOTA
20. Olivier Panis
21. Cristiano da Matta

Test drivers:
Ryan Briscoe???
Stephane Sarrazin???

Guy Goddard2 · 6 Nov 2002, 19:40 (Ref:423189)

The smart money has to be on Bernoldi returning to Minardi with that bag full of cash, half decent driver as well.
Minardi need money and I cant see them affording a rookie along with Verstappen (how did he get the drive, totally useless unless on a light fuel load) being there with his pay demands.

R · 6 Nov 2002, 20:37 (Ref:423227)

Bernoldi for Minardi would be good, he's gotta be the best pay-driver out there.

With Jos and Bernoldi, Minardi would have a decent line-up, and with the new qualifying and point-scoring systems, they could be set for scoring points, and more than a couple of times.

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