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Old 1 Jun 2008, 00:27 (Ref:2216209)   #26
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TKR + -$1,000,000 =
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Old 1 Jun 2008, 01:28 (Ref:2216222)   #27
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In all seriousness, I can't see how this can work.

Just using 888 and DJR as examples, 888 has an alleged much higher budget, but share engine development costs with SBR.

DJR get less money in, but develop their own engines.

Taking $1million from each would put DJR at a huge disadvantage.
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Old 3 Jun 2008, 05:20 (Ref:2218325)   #28
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Stop dreaming !!

Remember win on Sunday sell on Monday ... Toyota make that about as relevant as a gallon of standard petrol. Move on ...
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Old 3 Jun 2008, 07:25 (Ref:2218368)   #29
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i see this giving teams like tasman a big advantage put $1millionin to the New Zealand car
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Old 3 Jun 2008, 09:11 (Ref:2218454)   #30
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But... did you see in the sunday news, that will make TKR take the challange to HRT... must be true DJ said so.... you know because TKR own a car and have a team
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Old 3 Jun 2008, 10:00 (Ref:2218493)   #31
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Three point plan -

1. Current cars up to the end of 2009
2. From 2010 cars to V8 Ute specification.
3. Development series runs current spec cars until 2012, thus giving the main game team the opportunity to sell their current cars.
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Old 3 Jun 2008, 12:54 (Ref:2218689)   #32
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That'll be good, seeing Dev Series cars lapping 10 seconds faster than proddie based Main Series jiggers.

The biggest cost savings for V8 Supercar will be control long-life engines (like DTM), control long life subassembly components, and easier to repair chassis'...period.

NASCAR's are approx HALF the cost of a V8 Supercar. If NASCAR introduced a control engine package, their costs would also spiral down nicely.

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Old 4 Jun 2008, 01:19 (Ref:2219257)   #33
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That'll be good, seeing Dev Series cars lapping 10 seconds faster than proddie based Main Series jiggers.
Why would that matter?
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Old 4 Jun 2008, 07:56 (Ref:2219397)   #34
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That'll be good, seeing Dev Series cars lapping 10 seconds faster than proddie based Main Series jiggers.
Seems to work in NASCAR...

The third tier Craftsman Truck series were the fastest of the three national touring series at Dover last weekend.
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Old 18 Jan 2009, 22:23 (Ref:2374091)   #35
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Meantime, the cost of operating a team increases and not just in V8SC Here

There is a lot of benefit to be had for VESA to use buying power to secure these kinds of facilities across the world for the benefit of its teams!
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Old 18 Jan 2009, 23:58 (Ref:2374135)   #36
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Why not..

Control chassis, fixed geometry, power curve, stiffness, downforce all equalized between the makes.

If Triple 8 still win, a control damper, spring and roll bars.

If Triple 8 still win, the top 3 in each session have to publish their set-ups, for tail end teams to take into consideration.

If Triple 8 still win then the top 5-10 get ballast as trophy.

That ought to reduce costs or at least make the tail enders quicker.
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Old 19 Jan 2009, 06:14 (Ref:2374229)   #37
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Showroom cars,take the airfilter off,stick some numbers on the doors and your off racing.


Well,it used to work in the good old days.
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Old 19 Jan 2009, 08:56 (Ref:2374274)   #38
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Well,it used to work in the good old days.
Ahhh the good ol days
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Old 19 Jan 2009, 11:36 (Ref:2374376)   #39
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Yep, only a couple of cars qualifying within 1 sec, those were the days.
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Old 20 Jan 2009, 02:22 (Ref:2374980)   #40
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Well,it used to work in the good old days.
Im with you, but wait on, we will have to buff the tyres so the tread doesnt chunk off. And the stub axles because the buffed tyres are giving too much grip.

Oh hang on were cornering too fast now, can I please have a bigger sump, wait on, no a dry sump please.

Buffing the tyres is so time consuming, can we have slicks please, oh wont fit on that wheel, look at these lovely alloy ones. Dont those brakes look small, do you think we could have some nicer rotors & bigger calipers.

Look at that body roll, keep spotting my new slicks, hmm we need some......
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Old 21 Jan 2009, 22:31 (Ref:2376441)   #41
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Ford is just as capable of developing those export markets like Holden.
Are they? Isn't it up to Ford US?

Once the USA decrees Falcon, Mustang, and other RWD models all have the same RHD/LHD capable platform (designed by the clever folks at Ford Australia of course) and similar engines (why not export the inline 6 for the bigger rear drive american fords to keep a great engine going?) then Ford Australia should be doing better.

Otherwise with the non-worldwide inline 6 and non-worldwide locally specced V8 how are worldwide dealers going to give support to Falcons and Territories?
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Old 25 Jan 2009, 02:08 (Ref:2378500)   #42
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Are they? Isn't it up to Ford US?

Once the USA decrees Falcon, Mustang, and other RWD models all have the same RHD/LHD capable platform (designed by the clever folks at Ford Australia of course) and similar engines (why not export the inline 6 for the bigger rear drive american fords to keep a great engine going?) then Ford Australia should be doing better.

Otherwise with the non-worldwide inline 6 and non-worldwide locally specced V8 how are worldwide dealers going to give support to Falcons and Territories?
Sounds good, but I can't see the US accepting the inline 6. It would be a marketing nightmare (never mind it's a good engine, it's not a "modern V6"
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Why not..

Control chassis, fixed geometry, power curve, stiffness, downforce all equalized between the makes.

If Triple 8 still win, a control damper, spring and roll bars.

If Triple 8 still win, the top 3 in each session have to publish their set-ups, for tail end teams to take into consideration.

If Triple 8 still win then the top 5-10 get ballast as trophy.

That ought to reduce costs or at least make the tail enders quicker.
Sounds good to me it should stop 888 from getting another bathurst win
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