What must be going through Eddie Irvine's head??

Tristan · 2 Mar 2002, 15:37 (Ref:225867)

Other than "Feck, arse, girls!!", of course.

You've arrived in Melbourne to finally compare your new care with the rest of the field. You've had problems all through the closed season. And now this. Only a Minardi is slower. THREE YEARS HARD GRAFT. And your at Minardi pace.

When he left Ferrari he famously said: "I can't beat Schumacher. He's the best driver in the world. The only way I can beat him is to have better equipment. I believe this is my best shot at it [being at Jaguar]".

And he and Pedro are at the back of the grid. What do you DO??

BBKing · 2 Mar 2002, 15:40 (Ref:225869)

Just think where they would be if they didn't have the 2nd best driver in the world....LOL

Lauda must be looking behind his shoulders for the man with the axe....LOL

facco · 2 Mar 2002, 16:08 (Ref:225888)

This happens just one day after ERV said that JAG must improve or he will depart.

Mania · 2 Mar 2002, 16:10 (Ref:225890)

Tristan,

I dont think Eddie has done anything wrong - the car simply sucks. At the end of this season, his contract is up and he`s trying everything to get an extention because I think he knows that the team will never be a contender while he`s around but he wants to stay in F1 for another 2-3 seasons and this is the only team he can drive for.

I dont think he will win another race but after all the work he`s put into Jaguar I think he wants some sort of a reward. I think he`s still quick enough to get some decent finishes but Jaguar have made a mess out of their last 2 seasons in the sport. This one seems to be even worse.

What they need is a top designer - and they dont have one. Till they lure one away, they`re stuck in the middle of nowhere.

EERO · 2 Mar 2002, 16:12 (Ref:225891)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan
Only a Minardi is slower.

Actually, only Alex Yoong is slower. Minardi is actually faster. And lets not forget to thank Niki for selling those Cossies to the Arrows team, who proved that despite turmoil in the driver's ranks, and little preseason testing, that the Cossie isn't such a lump.

alesi95 · 2 Mar 2002, 16:24 (Ref:225905)

What is Irvine thinking?

Hopfully :

"Oh no, I have finally been reveal as a complete fraud and an average F1 driver."

Probably:

"None of this is my fault, If I was in A ferrari I would have been a lot more than 0.005 seconds faster than Michael, Oh well back to Beach Volleyball with lots of girls."

Nicholas · 2 Mar 2002, 17:16 (Ref:225956)

Pedro de la Rosa isn't average!

Lee Janotta · 2 Mar 2002, 17:27 (Ref:225968)

Heh... Is it too late for Jaguar to buy some chassis off Walkinshaw, in exchange for those engines? Or maybe they should have bought those Prosts from last year.

Hey, how about a Mini pulled by gerbil?!

Alan Jones · 2 Mar 2002, 18:09 (Ref:225999)

AS Eddie fades into the the sunset of the 02 season,we can expect some classic comments as he tries to impress on the world just how good he is and hopefully kick James Allen out of a job for 03.

Mania · 2 Mar 2002, 18:34 (Ref:226016)

James Allen out of a job? Now, that sounds interesting. Can we add Louise to that list !

Francesca · 2 Mar 2002, 19:10 (Ref:226044)

What is going through Eddie's head?

Tumbleweed! He never really had much between the ears did he?

Lee Janotta · 2 Mar 2002, 19:17 (Ref:226048)

Heh... Is it too late for Jaguar to buy some chassis off Walkinshaw, in exchange for those engines? Or maybe they should have bought those Prosts from last year.

Hey, how about a Mini pulled by gerbil?!

The Accomplice · 2 Mar 2002, 19:21 (Ref:226051)

How long before Lauda gets his P45?

Takuma · 2 Mar 2002, 19:24 (Ref:226053)

I bet Bobby Rahal is thinking "thank god I'm out of it"

Alan Jones · 2 Mar 2002, 19:29 (Ref:226058)

Yep, Bobby wouldn't be crying would he!

EERO · 2 Mar 2002, 19:36 (Ref:226060)

Quote:

Originally posted by Takuma
I bet Bobby Rahal is thinking "thank god I'm out of it"

How true, how true. Only I still believe that there was hope under Rahal and that Lauda is not creating an atmosphere that brings the best out of his people.
Irvine had some good moments at ferrari, but Jaguar has been a burden that will have killed whatever incentive he may have had.

Super Tourer · 2 Mar 2002, 20:05 (Ref:226084)

As we've said many times before - the team is a shambles!!!

Even Marin Brundle said he didn't fancy talking to Lauda on the grid. If you listen very carefully .....you can just about hear the sound of a pen, held by Bill Clay Ford Jnr..scoring a line through the whole Jag F1 project...followed up by a big red CANCELLED stamp across any other plans they have.......

Think about this - why did Ford choose to enter F1 with the Jaguar brand as opposed to the Foed brand. Simply because they could take on their arch rivals in showroom terms (Mercedes & BMW). Trouble is the're at the front of the grid and Jag are at the back. This equals negative publicity.

To the causal observer does this mean the BMW & Mercedes build better cars than Jaguar...or worse still does this mean that Jaguar are worse than BMW & Mercedes. The whole Jag project has defeated its main objective. This will be their last year.

IMO. Ford will continue in F1 as an engine partner - where they will receive more credit for less risk & investment.

fast95pony · 2 Mar 2002, 20:43 (Ref:226113)

Ford would be better off just building ANOTHER new SUV !!

What's the Jag using for tires ?? Old Firestone truck tires with the tread peeled off ??

Alan

Takuma · 2 Mar 2002, 20:46 (Ref:226116)

Just think how bad the whole Jaguar fiasco would be if the drivers weren't of the quality of Irvine and De La Rosa, the drivers are both much better than the car allows them to show.

Speed · 2 Mar 2002, 21:25 (Ref:226139)

Can you expect something better, coming from a rat ?

Mania · 2 Mar 2002, 21:25 (Ref:226140)

I dont agree with the comment about Lauda. I think he`sbetter equipped than Rahal. Lauda knows how F1 works and over time he can correct all the problems Jaguar has. Remember, he inherited a mess and didnt make one on his own so I think he deserves a fair go.

Speed · 2 Mar 2002, 21:38 (Ref:226151)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mania
Lauda knows how F1 works and over time he can correct all the problems Jaguar has.

What a coincidence..., I heard this before...
"Prost knows how F1 works and over time he can correct all the problems Prost-GP has."

Mania · 2 Mar 2002, 22:10 (Ref:226173)

Well Prost was Prost - you know - and Nikki's - well....Nikki!

That says in all doesent it !

Seriously though, Nikki worked with Ferrari and he played a major role in bringing Michael into the team - I think he has better man management skills than Prost and besides he's not footing the bill either - which in itself makes a major difference in getting the best people together.

Speed · 2 Mar 2002, 22:25 (Ref:226191)

I re-read what I wrote, and I missed something...
"Can you expect something better, coming from a rat, who thinks a monkey can drive a computer assisted modern car... (not the same words, but close.)

This kind of statement doesn´t make me think he knows everything about modern F1. This kind of comments denigrate driver´s skills and shows how wrong he is to manage a big responsability as Jaguar. Just check Jaguar´s Team performance so far, and front aerodynamic problems they have..., is part of his responsabilities to be ahead on this.

BBKing · 2 Mar 2002, 22:30 (Ref:226194)

Lauda was kicked out from Ferrari because he was creating conflict from inside the team. He is doing the same thing at Jaguar. Someone siding with Irvine to get rid of Rahal cannot be smart enough to run an F1 team.

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