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If Holden drop out all bets are off and I reckon that is a big chance of happening as I can't see an upside to them even continuing in this country at all. We should start a sweep on what date they will drop support. I suppose that is the biggest hurdle SC has to face and plan for in the nearish future and hope to hell it does not happen. |
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Here is a crazy Frenchman giving it some stick, even if it is no longer Ferrari fast (Honda foolishly used an outdated benchmark in the 458), it is not *that* slow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkI24z1t7Eg It seems to handle well with the dual-electric front motors' torque vectoring, and does it job admirably. So I have come round to appreciate it. It would still be an unsellable overpriced underappreciated Honda collecting dust on dealer lots even if wasn't a hybrid, right? To get headlines Honda perhaps should have boosted it to the moon and given it 800hp to put a cat amongst the pigeons, but to win wars of spec sheets isn't a very Honda way to go about things... So a mediocre class average 575hp it is, what a overweight overpriced underpowered hybrid pile of bolts indeed. So in time maybe people will come 'round to appreciate the elegance of hybrid performance cars and hybrid racing cars -- even if they seem like ridiculous pointless greenwashing in the present day... Last edited by V8 Fireworks; 11 Apr 2018 at 07:27. |
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Erebus amongst others publicly saying so in a more diplomatic manner was probably just the 1st comment made on something that behind closed doors was already agreed on to be shelved. |
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14 Apr 2018, 08:15 (Ref:3815376) | #59 | |
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That article makes for sobering reading. Hard to see Holden surviving really.
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It certainly looks like the writing is on the wall. Very troubling news and prognosis.
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They're shot. Interesting to see their marketing direction in the short term and how that effects Supercars in what seems like a last ditch attempt to save the brand.
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Holden are shot, focused too heavily on the Aussie built Commodore and didn't plan well for post 2017. Or Detroit had zero interest in OZ post 2017.
They have nothing to bring buyers through their doors. Colorado looks to be the best seller, but is out sold almost 3 to 1 by Hilux and Ranger, then twice by Triton. Unless something amazing happens this year, brand survival beyond 2020 will be tough. Domination with the ZB in Supercars will keep the rusted on passionate about the brand, but probably have no affect on sales. Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk |
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Totally agree, the rusted on faithful don't seem to be so passionate about the car sitting in the showroom.
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