[Team] Williams: Do they have a spare tub?

[Born Racer]

Kubica thinks something is amiss in his car, thus accounting for the difference with Russell. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...Xz85lzp4d.html

If so, it's going to a mighty achievement of his to see him beating Russell if that comes to fruition.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

That 2as my point. I don't think he's there in a direct technical role. He's there to kick some butt.

Let's hope so He is not soft hopefully he will set the good engineers - if there are any left - free

[bella]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

What Team Willy need is strong leadership. I'm sure the SPH can provide this, he's never been afraid of ruffling a few feathers!

don't mean to single out your post as an example.

but this comic comes to mind when reading a lot of internet comments similar to yours

[BertMk2]

Well in qualifying today the Williams were 1.5 seconds slower than the car ahead. That's a big gap in club racing - for Formula 1 that's an absolute age. They seem to be the only team that's not recovered the downforce lost in the regulation changes - presumably that's why they're advertising jobs for anyone who can spell 'aerodynamics'.

[F1Pete]

I won't be surprised if Williams are forced to pack it in and park it in the garage for good.

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[VIVA GT]

I just watched my recording of the Channel 4 qualifying show and they had a very direct interview with Claire Williams who seemed to take all of the criticism well. A couple of things she said that I found interesting were that Sir Patrick's input is factory based, and only a couple of days a week. Secondly, that they do appear to have major aerodynamic problems as the car has less downforce and more drag, this could explain the recent job advertisements.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

I just watched my recording of the Channel 4 qualifying show and they had a very direct interview with Claire Williams who seemed to take all of the criticism well. A couple of things she said that I found interesting were that Sir Patrick's input is factory based, and only a couple of days a week. Secondly, that they do appear to have major aerodynamic problems as the car has less downforce and more drag, this could explain the recent job advertisements.

At least they admit it unlike McLaren who swore black was white that their chassis was not at fault when running the Honda. It is unusual for a team to admit stuff like this so kudos to her even if she is walking along a very short plank with a big drop.

[S griffin]

Well there’s no hiding. After all their engine has won multiple titles the last few seasons

[CaptRustyNail]

Why can't someone internal whistle blow and tell us what is really going on? That would be some juicy gossip.

[Greem]

Originally Posted by CaptRustyNail

Why can't someone internal whistle blow and tell us what is really going on? That would be some juicy gossip.

Most likely because they'd never get another job in top-level motorsport or (if they're involved in manufacturing) in high-level commercially sensitive manufacturing, ever again. It's a very, very small world.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by CaptRustyNail

Why can't someone internal whistle blow and tell us what is really going on? That would be some juicy gossip.

Maybe because the majority of the staff involved are good people with families who would rather not disrespect their employer just to satisfy a bunch of keyBoard warrior’s pathetic morbid curiosity? Just saying ...

[CaptRustyNail]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Maybe because the majority of the staff involved are good people with families who would rather not disrespect their employer just to satisfy a bunch of keyBoard warrior’s pathetic morbid curiosity? Just saying ...

Would have settled with nosey... pathetic morbid curiosity is a bit much for a post that isn't particularly serious...just saying...

[Tourer]

Not sure if some of what she said has been lost in translation (original interview was in a French magazine apparently) but according to this article Claire Williams is admitting fault for instigating the change of internal structure within the team back in 2014-15 period that has lead to the current problems.

Lot of work to get done if the ship is going to be turned around by the sound of it.

[S griffin]

Makes a nice change for the team principal to admit fault and not play the blame game. They do need to get it sorted though

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Not sure if some of what she said has been lost in translation (original interview was in a French magazine apparently) but according to this article Claire Williams is admitting fault for instigating the change of internal structure within the team back in 2014-15 period that has lead to the current problems.

Lot of work to get done if the ship is going to be turned around by the sound of it.

Interesting article made more interesting by the fact that Paddy Lowe joined Williams in March 2017, so is not responsible for a change that was made in 2014/5, also interesting that Claire Williams is not prepared to address the Paddy Lowe question.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by CaptRustyNail

Why can't someone internal whistle blow and tell us what is really going on? That would be some juicy gossip.

It always strikes me how little actual journalism goes on around F1, the players seem to escape scrutiny and accountability on all sorts of issues that would certainly be investigated and make the "news" in any other sport.

Looks like Lowe will walk away from this covered in egg for things that would seem to be beyond his control, and nobody will be any the wiser, other than the vaguely reported mutterings that nobody knows who they actually report to at Williams.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wnut

Interesting article made more interesting by the fact that Paddy Lowe joined Williams in March 2017, so is not responsible for a change that was made in 2014/5, also interesting that Claire Williams is not prepared to address the Paddy Lowe question.

Paddy Lowe, was originally with Williams from 1987 - 1993.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Paddy Lowe, was originally with Williams from 1987 - 1993.

I doubt that has much bearing on the current problems at Williams.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Paddy Lowe, was originally with Williams from 1987 - 1993.

So Clare Williams has finally taken responsibility for this unholy mess but is yet to do the right thing. In the meantime her brother who has front running team is in exile in the historic department..... what a mess

[midgetman]

That's a little harsh. Running a historic racing team with wealthy customers just playing at racing in cars whose specification is fixed can hardly be compared to being at the cutting edge.

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[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by wnut

Interesting article made more interesting by the fact that Paddy Lowe joined Williams in March 2017, so is not responsible for a change that was made in 2014/5, also interesting that Claire Williams is not prepared to address the Paddy Lowe question.

According to Joe Saward the departure of Lowe will be a messy legal challenge, so doubt we will see CW refer to it whilst that is going on, if at all as any 'settlement' may be on non-disclosure' terms, as is common these days.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by midgetman

That's a little harsh. Running a historic racing team with wealthy customers just playing at racing in cars whose specification is fixed can hardly be compared to being at the cutting edge.

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I think the successful team is/was a GP2 team, not Williams Heritage

[midgetman]

Ah apologies.



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[wnut]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

I think the successful team is/was a GP2 team, not Williams Heritage

Jonathon should have stayed away from Williams!

IMO it looks to be a place that people take their careers to die, it would be interesting to see a list of people who have survived Williams to be successful elsewhere, there are some like Newey and Wolff, but boy are there a lot that it hasn't worked out well for.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

According to Joe Saward the departure of Lowe will be a messy legal challenge, so doubt we will see CW refer to it whilst that is going on, if at all as any 'settlement' may be on non-disclosure' terms, as is common these days.

Thanks Moneyseeker.
Oh dear, just what the team needs at this point.
Anything about the rest of the aerodynamicists?