Drop your worst round

[Razor]

Why did AVESCO bring in the stupid rule back in: drop your worst round, but have to drop the drivers worst round by round 10 (Bathurst 1000)? I think it is a complete waste of time, fuel and tyres. They race for 10 rounds and have to drop one of drivers rounds. It did not work in the past and it will not work now. What do you people think about the "drop your worst round" rule? Good or bad?

[Timu]

Bad-

A waste of time, and unwanted confusion in my opinion, good for calculator sales though....

[browney]

I don't like it.

That said, they need it when they give hundreds of points away with only a couple of points between places, otherwise you can have 1 retirement and win the majority of the races and still not be able to catch up. Why can't they just have a simple system that gives decent gaps between placeings. You don't need to give points all the way down the list. Something similar to the motogp system would be great.

[kramer]

There's no perfect system but I don't think there's enough reward for winning at the moment. I'd rather see bigger gaps rather than the current 'every kiddie wins a prize' pointscoring system.

There was a good argument in one of the magazines a while back for a new system. But the worst thing they could do is change the system every year. It just confuses everyone and causes unneccesary 'well if we'd had the 2005 system in 1976...' arguments.

However, I do like the dropping of the worst round. I think that rewards having a go rather than just going for consistent points. The important thing is that the pointscore should reward consistent HIGH places.



Kramer

[peckstar]

agree with kramer. dont realy care about drop the round or not, although why drop it after 10 is an interesting question, but the top place getters should be rewarded more

[RayF]

Sorry if I am covering old ground, but the questions seem to be being asked again.
The system of having close points gaps and ropping of worst round is designed to ensure that the single most disastrous thing (to the promoters/organisers/marketers - not to the competitors) doesn't happen - there is a runaway points leader early in the championship.
Having a runaway points leader will result in much less interest in the competition, and this will result in lower TV ratings, with resulting lower advertising takings, and also result in lower crowd numbers at the circuits. So what? You guessed it - less financial income.
With the pointscore, you need the close points gaps and the round-dropping to happen together. The dropping of the worst round maintains almost total confusion while it is in place. In the case of the V8's, the confusion is maintained until quite late in the year, until Bathurst. Maintaining confusion is like hiding the issue - people avoid thinking about the points because it is all too hard, and anyway, it doesn't make much difference until near the end of the year. And by the time that the points do become important, the dropping of the round is brought in to make the points close, and the chase to the points lead all of a sudden becomes exciting (and at last, relevant)!

[racer69]

Dropping your worst score has been around for many many years in the championship, it's just that prior to 2003, the last time it was used was 1991.

It depends what the aim is, do they want the champion to be determined on the speed of the driver, or on the consistency of the driver.

If it is on consistency, then with only one dropped score and the points distribution so pathetic for the winner, than the consistent player will still win.

If it is based on speed, then it should be the best 10 for 13 or something like that, encourage them to have a go, basically without points consequences, with the knowledge they have a round or two to drop.

The worst bit is that, with them making you drop the results from Bathurst or before, they are saying the last 3 rounds are more important than any other round this year, despite the same points being on offer.


FINAL THOUGHT - Do away with championships altogether, and make every race stand on it's own as an important event, for big bucks of course. If someone must be crowned V8Supercar Champion, decide it over one of the races during the year.

[Pro Racer]

hate the bloody thing

[retro]

It's a bit like the race for the chase in Nascar.........you have until Bathurst to DNF and then it's a race home....most drivers seem to like it.

[ford boy]

Im not a fan of it, all rounds should count

[Razor]

Originally Posted by ford boy

Im not a fan of it, all rounds should count

You are a pshyic mate, how did you know what was on my mind on the drop your worst round rule.

[ford boy]

Originally Posted by Greg Barton

You are a pshyic mate, how did you know what was on my mind on the drop your worst round rule.

Because it makes sense, it does'nt make it confusing. On superstars Russell Ingall did'nt even know he was leading the championship if you dropped your worst round. Bet he would have known if all rounds counted !!

[resisturban]

I bet he knew.... ahh.... publicity, dont you love it?

[Uncle Cranker]

Harking back to the good old days...... ahhh.


If the Black Wiggle could only make a championship within a championship....

Bring back the Endurance championship, but with a twist !

Make Adelaide Bathurst, Sandown & say Phillip Island a seperate championship within the "V8 Supercar racing Championships " series.

Keep the points the same for all rounds, regardless of distance, get rid of the drop your worst round, and crown an endurance champ at the final round as well as a sprint champ.

Obviously the sprint rounds should be just that, but any round that has say 2 x 200 km races should be a endurance round.
All points should follow a F1 type system, but for the first 14 cars only.

Points could look somthing like this.
1st 50.
2nd 45
3rd 40
4th 35
5th 30
then each position following, decreasing by 3 points.

Every single race is scored the same, so at a 3 x 100 km round, points are up for grabs 3 times, at a 2 x 200 km round twice, and at Co-driver events each gets the points once.

Open the series with Adelaide (enduro series) & close at PI with a 200 km race on Saturday (enduro series) a 100 km race Sunday Morning (Sprint series) and a 200 km race Sunday arvo, then there are potentially 2 champs, 2 series, down to the wire, and then Tony can preside over the two closest Touring Car series in the World, not just the closest.......

[mixxer]

I agree on the idea of a endurance championship just as it used to be, but I still like the idea of Bathurst as a standalone round - NO points, NO championship, lets just race for the honour of winning at Bathurst.

[Conrod Kieron]

As AVESCO will never release Bathurst from the championship, we don't see drivers/teams at the pointy end of the championship having an all out serious go at the 1000 like we used too.

One advantage of dropping your worse round is these drivers can afford to have a red hot go at Bathurst as long as they don't have a seriously bad round prior rather than plod around collecting championship points in a race that has become a shadow of its former self.

With any luck, we will see the likes of Ambrose, Ingall, Skaife and Richo having a good scrap this year and teams preparing for the big race like they used too.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by mixxer

I agree on the idea of a endurance championship just as it used to be, but I still like the idea of Bathurst as a standalone round - NO points, NO championship, lets just race for the honour of winning at Bathurst.

I like the way you are thinking.

[Mattracer]

Even if Bathurst was a stand alone event like it once was, the nature of how the race is run nowadays with safety car interventions has changed the race. Never again will you see a winning margin of six laps, but then again, that wouold be majorly unpalatable because it would be seen as boring. Bathurst has changed forever. It still has a mystique and an attraction because it is so long but it is a different race now. Of course the same principle apply but how it is approached has changed. Teams base their strategy around safety car periods, hardly any stops fall under green now.l It's almost a bit cynical but the safety aspects can never and should never be denied.