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Old 10 Mar 2015, 23:42 (Ref:3513859)   #1
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Messy start to the season

This is really getting messy...

1: Magnusson in for Alonso whilst he recovers from his "not a concussion" concussion

2: Mehri in at the New Manor but apparently for the "first rounds"

and now

3: Giedo van der Garde legals his way into a drive instead of Nasr or Ericsson **

All this and the cars still haven't turned a wheel in race weekend anger, still there is 47 hours and 18 minutes for it to get even more messed up.

** subject no doubt to appeal by Sauber, who don't appear to want GvdG; Nasr or Ericsson and their sponsors who put their money forward to get respective drivers their seats.
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Old 10 Mar 2015, 23:56 (Ref:3513862)   #2
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pirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridpirenzo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Alonso will be fine and everyone will forget about it, Mehri is a decent driver and stands a reasonable chance of keeping his drive if Manor find some extra cash.

The real mess is the Sauber situation. It seems that they accepted money from three, maybe four drivers, but only had two seats to offer. Bills had to be paid and presumably the legal situation goes out of the window in that case. They will have hoped to muddle through somehow and avoid this, but now if Sutil is in the same boat as VdG won't he consider the same course of action?
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Old 10 Mar 2015, 23:59 (Ref:3513863)   #3
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wolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I have to agree with you on that and the Sauber situation could get a lot more more messy before long.
I'll bet the Australian GP organisers will not be too happy all they need now is for Ricciardo to slip on a banana skin.
I doubt Bernie will be able to sort it too quickly either.
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 03:53 (Ref:3513918)   #4
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Sauber will not race Giedo van der Garde....
No matter what his contract says ...
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 04:07 (Ref:3513925)   #5
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Sauber will not race Giedo van der Garde....
No matter what his contract says ...
If they race another driver in his place he would surely be entitled to apply for compensation. I therefore believe they will have to settle with him in order to be in control to what the financial hit will be. Which could be enough to see Sauber in trouble before the end of the year.

Particularly depending on what Sutil's contract says and whether he wants to take them to task.
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 04:24 (Ref:3513929)   #6
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Well he is but they still won't race him because the cars have been prepared for the other two drivers, plus he has not driven the 2015 car..
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 06:25 (Ref:3513952)   #7
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I think there's usually mini-messes at the start of most seasons, to be fair. This one's no different.

Struggling teams hiring drivers for X amount of races is pretty common, at least in my memory.

Still, happy for them. Just making it to Melbourne is a total miracle.

Let's not forget all of those teams 'protesting'...

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Old 11 Mar 2015, 09:04 (Ref:3513990)   #8
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Let's all look forward to the first 'gate'. There are always a few of those.
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 09:28 (Ref:3514002)   #9
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Let's all look forward to the first 'gate'. There are always a few of those.
Saubergate...

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Old 11 Mar 2015, 09:57 (Ref:3514018)   #10
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 10:17 (Ref:3514024)   #11
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 10:48 (Ref:3514039)   #12
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i am sure it will all be sorted out, but long term this is still driving away sponsors and financial backers away from f1
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Old 11 Mar 2015, 11:26 (Ref:3514052)   #14
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Yup, and look forward to the first piece of new technology that angers all the other teams for not thinking of it first, and blame having to spend 'millions' trying to catch up.

I wonder why they're in F1...?

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Old 11 Mar 2015, 11:35 (Ref:3514061)   #15
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I can't believe that on top of those I mentioned, there is item 4

Not knowing if the German Grand Prix will happen.
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Yeh, that one's a particular shame. But the lack of crowd was definitely worrying last season, but then again, that's never stopped Bahrain from being on the calendar.

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i am sure it will all be sorted out, but long term this is still driving away sponsors and financial backers away from f1
And spectators? I have never been less excited about the start of an F1 season. Almost forgot it was this weekend. The endless soap opera is so tedious.
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It's just Sauber grapes from the team.

Ooh, I am awful!
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Wonder how well the seemingly temperature-sensitive Honda engines will take to Malaysia's much less kind conditions?

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Not just a messy start but a very, very messy start to the season.
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and i think that is an understatement
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