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Old 15 Sep 2020, 17:22 (Ref:4002625)   #196
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Why was this race allowed to run for so long? Wasn't there a new rule (introduced after the extra-long 2011 Canadian GP) that said F1 race must end two hours after the start? This is a joke. F1 eats its own rules.
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 18:06 (Ref:4002638)   #197
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 18:13 (Ref:4002639)   #198
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If they had gone with the two hour rule, would there have been time left for any actual racing?
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 18:38 (Ref:4002643)   #199
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It was the Ferrari grand prix, no time limit and 4l engines.
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 19:58 (Ref:4002669)   #200
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Why was this race allowed to run for so long? Wasn't there a new rule (introduced after the extra-long 2011 Canadian GP) that said F1 race must end two hours after the start? This is a joke. F1 eats its own rules.
That rule exists EXCEPT when the race is halted by a red flag or flags - when that is the case, the time limit is 4 hours.

F1 didn't eat its own rules.
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 20:15 (Ref:4002674)   #201
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Why was this race allowed to run for so long? Wasn't there a new rule (introduced after the extra-long 2011 Canadian GP) that said F1 race must end two hours after the start? This is a joke. F1 eats its own rules.
2 hours of green flag running in a 4 hour window is the rule.
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 20:42 (Ref:4002679)   #202
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but life behind the paywall and/or on more specialty sports channels means the need to satisfy the TV window is less important right?

anyways, people used to be upset, and rightly so, when their local broadcaster left a race before it finished...now someone is upset because they actually finished a race and televised the whole thing!

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Old 15 Sep 2020, 21:54 (Ref:4002683)   #203
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2 hours of green flag running in a 4 hour window is the rule.
Stop with your actual facts about the actual rules. It's much more fun to hurl insults based on inadequate understanding.
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 21:58 (Ref:4002684)   #204
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In which case:

Worst race ever! Should've been cancelled earlier and Bottas DQ'd for driving slowly and RP disqualified for using spray paint on a Mercedes and Lewis isn't any good it's just the car and we should all cancel our subscriptions because these are the worst sessions I've ever seen in any motor racing history in the world of my LIFE.

PS. Lewis sucks because he won again.

Did I miss anything?
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Old 15 Sep 2020, 22:16 (Ref:4002694)   #205
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Well not sure you covered everything, but although the last two races were different, they were better than most of the other races so far IMHO
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Old 16 Sep 2020, 00:01 (Ref:4002709)   #206
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I think we should appreciate we had quite an action packed couple of races. Monza is always a great spectacle anyway and the mix up of the order was quite a nice change. Mugello has given us plenty to talk about after that one. Of course it's hard to stay focused with Merc dominating, but there is plenty happening to keep us interested, if you know where to look, even if the race for the win isn't there
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similarly to what you suggested earlier in the thread, radio 5/the bbc website were determined that it was russell who went first. which really just shows how hard it is to place blame, and they were ultimately correct to read half the field the riot act rather than specifically have a go at one or two drivers. going at that particular point was probably a lot closer to a non-baku restart, so it's not that far fetched. unfortunately the further back you get in the field, the faster they're going to turn up at the scene of the accident assuming everyone else is leaving a similar gap between cars.

the same thing happens in a road accident on a busy road - one person has to react at the last minute because they weren't paying attention or were unsighted, which cascades backwards getting closer and closer to the point where somebody can't react in time and goes into the back of someone else. then all hell breaks loose until there's a big enough gap to break the chain.

but it goes without saying that they shouldn't need specific rules for restarts. they're all grown ups, not 12 year olds in karts.
This is the footage you are talking about I think Bella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28Rnfmnlak

George Russell is the culprit, he leaves a big gap, accelerates, and then brakes and swerves sideways (PDVA's point) to avoid the cars he is going to rear end, which leaves those behind him who have reacted to him going no where to go, chaos ensues.

At the end of the day, this has to be better policed in the rules because it is the only place you may make up 5 places in 500 meters, and everyone will always try.
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Old 16 Sep 2020, 12:15 (Ref:4002763)   #208
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This is the footage you are talking about I think Bella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28Rnfmnlak

George Russell is the culprit, he leaves a big gap, accelerates, and then brakes and swerves sideways (PDVA's point) to avoid the cars he is going to rear end, which leaves those behind him who have reacted to him going no where to go, chaos ensues.

At the end of the day, this has to be better policed in the rules because it is the only place you may make up 5 places in 500 meters, and everyone will always try.
Brilliant video.
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Brilliant video.
The onboard shots are really scary.
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And here was me thinking only Renault were a s*** show.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15...-out-of-system

Snip:Before he alighted from his beached car he said: "This is what you get with this f**king **** show," in an apparent reference to the ongoing engine problems.
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