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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:19 (Ref:3850618)   #26
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:41 (Ref:3850622)   #27
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Typical Perez/Maldinado type shove...
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:49 (Ref:3850623)   #28
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I don't know why Ferrari/Vettel pitted first?
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:54 (Ref:3850624)   #29
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I don't know why Ferrari/Vettel pitted first?
Presumably they thought they might as well throw away the championship now to remove any doubt.
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:55 (Ref:3850625)   #30
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Presumably they thought they might as well throw away the championship now to remove any doubt.
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 12:56 (Ref:3850626)   #31
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Pretty terrible strategy there. Guaranteeing yourself a stop that others won't have to make. Only works if you 100% know you won't have any traffic (which he would, because Lewis was there, nevermind Max!) and if you know you can manage the tyres perfectly. Which they don't tend to be able to do.

Throwing away a title with terrible strategy indeed.
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Pretty terrible strategy there. Guaranteeing yourself a stop that others won't have to make. Only works if you 100% know you won't have any traffic (which he would, because Lewis was there, nevermind Max!) and if you know you can manage the tyres perfectly. Which they don't tend to be able to do.

Throwing away a title with terrible strategy indeed.
When Alonso was driving with Ferrari, they would make these terrible strategy calls and throw away the race.
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Title chances were pretty much gone after Vettel's mistake in Germany anyway.
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When Alonso was driving with Ferrari, they would make these terrible strategy calls and throw away the race.
Yeah, this is a long term Ferrari problem. Vettel is only doing as well as Alonso managed. So far it does seem that Ferrari themselves aren't capable of winning a title, even if Vettel didn't make the mistakes he does.

Remember when Ferraris terrible strategy put Alonso behind Petrov for a whole race, allowing Seb to steal the title? Good example of what your point!

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Title chances were pretty much gone after Vettel's mistake in Germany anyway.
They were, but one unlucky DNF could've brought it back, but only if they can beat Mercedes on track. They seem determined not to do that.
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The Mercedes is the better car though, no matter what English journalists want to make you believe.
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Old 16 Sep 2018, 13:08 (Ref:3850634)   #36
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Title chances were pretty much gone after Vettel's mistake in Germany anyway.
Rubbish. Takes 1 retirement, or engine change in practice with grid drop from Hamilton and it’s game on
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Rubbish. Takes 1 retirement, or engine change in practice with grid drop from Hamilton and it’s game on
There are 6 races to after this one, so yes I would agree with that. Today would be a good time to for Lulu to have a DNF, as far as Vettee is concerned.
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Perez does it again. Just ban him..
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There are 6 races to after this one, so yes I would agree with that. Today would be a good time to for Lulu to have a DNF, as far as Vettee is concerned.
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There are 6 races to after this one, so yes I would agree with that. Today would be a good time to for Lulu to have a DNF, as far as Vettee is concerned.
And still plenty of time for it to happen...
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Congrats to Lewis, a commanding performance all weekend. Ferrari have only themselves to blame for that strategy call. A mature drive by Verstappen.
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Am I the only who thinks this track is awful for racing?
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Situations like this, where Ferrari have completely screwed the strategy and are forcing drivers to either go slowly or take another stop is where you need a strong #2. Where exactly was Bottas today?
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Same place Raikkonen en Ricciardo were. It's called #2 driver land.
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Maybe they're full embracing the idea of a third car, because they were so far back that it was more like #3 land. Vettel on a terrible strategy should not be 10+ seconds ahead of Bottas on an ideal one.
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Well not a great race and it throws up many questions as to why the second drivers were so far off the number 1 driver in the top teams and how the massive gap to the midfield cars has grown so large
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Maybe they're full embracing the idea of a third car, because they were so far back that it was more like #3 land. Vettel on a terrible strategy should not be 10+ seconds ahead of Bottas on an ideal one.
Alternately Vettel on a faster tyre shouldn’t have been 10 seconds ahead of Bottas.

Ferrari AND Vettel didn’t do a good enough job this weekend
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Well, Ferrari were really hopeless. Almost as if they gave up after Hamilton's lap in qually. The only astonishing thing was that drive through for Perez. He leaves his team mate with nowhere to go after a nudge into the wall and then turns into Sirotkin. I'd have shown him the red card, personally....
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