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Old 26 Oct 2017, 05:42 (Ref:3776526)   #1
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 08:51 (Ref:3776546)   #2
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BBC have an article on why Mercedes might struggle.

Will the title be clinched at Mexico? - Perhaps we will have to wait.
Will Hartley put in a good performance after last time's grid penalty?
How many drivers are still racing to retain their seats?
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 13:51 (Ref:3776608)   #3
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From the official F1 site:




Fri 27 Oct – Sun 29 Oct 2017
Practice 1 - Fri - 10:00 – 11:30 Practice 2 - Fri - 14:00 – 15:30 Practice 3 - Sat - 10:00 – 11:00 Qualifying - Sat - 13:00 – 14:00 Race - Sun - 13:00 – 15:00In 2016, Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen all topped the times in FP sessions, which indicates the potential for a mixed bag of results this weekend.
Qualifying saw Mercedes dominant, with RBR behind them in formation. The Ferraris were pipped by a Force India - something that looks unlikely this year and it is expected that Ferrari may have the outright pace this year and will be the team to beat. Some are predicting that Mercedes could struggle, and possibly find themselves behind Ferrari and RBR?

Aero has proven to be of utmost importance in previous events here, and with the tricky Stadium section, does this give the chance for McLaren to score good points. Or will one of the other midfield teams make a strong showing and get amongst the places Hamilton is looking for to clinch the title?

Extensive quotes can be found here. Highlights regarding the race prospects include:

Hartley - 'It's a tricky venue for the engineers, as the high altitude plays havoc on downforce and cooling, but from a driving point of view it's a great track and one I really enjoy'

Wolff - 'It will be important to be at the very top of our game if we want to get the job done.'

Grosjean - 'Brake cooling is an issue because of the air density. From there, we also have very little downforce because we’re at altitude. I guess the biggest thing for us to feel is the downforce loss. The biggest challenge for the car is the cooling.'

Hulkenberg - 'It has a lot of tricky corner combinations which look simple but are extremely technical. It’s certainly not an easy lap.'

Taffin [Renault] - 'The thinner air means the turbo has to spin at a higher rate to input enough oxygen into the ICE, it actually spins around 8 percent more in Mexico than in Abu Dhabi. Equally, fuel consumption over one lap is quite low so energy recovery is less critical in Mexico than at other circuits.'

Vijay Mallya - 'We have more updates coming for the VJM10 as we continue to push hard with development late into the season, which should give us an extra performance step this weekend.'

Alonso - 'It will surely be a challenging weekend for us as I’m expecting to start from the back of the grid due to the engine issue we had in Austin. It’s also a track where we often struggle with traffic, which makes overtaking difficult.'
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 18:01 (Ref:3776655)   #4
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The FIA are tightening up the drivers going outside the white lines rule for Mexico making the drivers pass certain points outside the circuit if they go off track at a number of corners including the first one.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/132648
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I'll have another look, but that strikes me as a bit odd. That is, Turns 8 and 11 seem less likely places for guys to go off than Turns 7, 9, and 10. And cutting Turn 9 would seem like the most obvious possible egregious offense.

At least it's something; we'll see how it goes.
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 18:31 (Ref:3776663)   #6
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was this done as the result of off track excursions last year or as the result of last weekend's shenanigans?

either way, credit to the Mexican GP organizers for reacting and with a solution (i think?) no one suggested in the USGP thread.

seems like a relatively simple and benign solution...if it works that is.
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 18:46 (Ref:3776665)   #7
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Remember, this race will be boring. The track is a pale imitation of what it once was. And considering the track there is potential for penalties, or not.

So, I suggest, you don't watch it. If you do then you'll only have yourself to blame. Also how will the FIA wake up and make changes to improve the sport if you just watch anyway? It will continue to go to rubbish tracks, have competition that isn't close enough and a complete lack of innovation.

Save yourself the trouble, do something less boring instead, and just come here after, perhaps when bored at work, and rate the race as a 3, Verstappen as driver of the race and Force India as the team of the race. Know one will know.
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Old 26 Oct 2017, 20:38 (Ref:3776676)   #8
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Wish they would shorten the DRS zone on the main straight. Make fights more of a braking duel instead of sitting duck style.
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Unfortunately, with how they redid Turn 1, the move just about needs to be clearly made before you're into the corner. After the initial start, and guys are up to speed, trying to go two-wide around that apex is fairly likely to end in either a collision or a track limits infraction.

It also means, that's a poor corner design, especially for a turn that's supposed to be a major overtaking zone.
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Now for the fun part of the weekend. The grid penalties.

So far we have:

Alonso = 20 places
Vandoorne = 35 places
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Unfortunately, with how they redid Turn 1, the move just about needs to be clearly made before you're into the corner. After the initial start, and guys are up to speed, trying to go two-wide around that apex is fairly likely to end in either a collision or a track limits infraction.

It also means, that's a poor corner design, especially for a turn that's supposed to be a major overtaking zone.
Exactly. It really should be more of an open / vague apex to give drivers a chance of jostling mid corner. However with these corners / chicanes with acute apexes there is really just one line through the corner.
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Good to see they are forcing drivers to use the slip road to get back on track if they cut a corner, it's a start if they want to take track limits seriously

And McLaren, more engine penalties. Groan
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Good to see they are forcing drivers to use the slip road to get back on track if they cut a corner, it's a start if they want to take track limits seriously

And McLaren, more engine penalties. Groan
Not if Ocon has anything to do with it. He has "slammed" the kerbs as being dangerous.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...ia-speed-bumps

Ive lost count of the number of times that this has happened. FIA installs kerbing to stop cutting corners > drivers moan about kerbs > kerbs get removed after FP1.
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The Monza second chicane includes an escape road, and even sometimes has a floppy plastic bollard on the apex of it. Why can't that be used?

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I think that's principally an option only if it's a straighter approach into the corner, like the Monza chicane or the chicane at the end of the lap at Montreal. Even then, we've seen the sausages launch cars at Les Combes at Spa, and elsewhere. They use those orange curbs to try to physically enforce the "escape road".
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