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Old 29 Sep 2009, 16:42 (Ref:2550653)   #1
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P4/5 Competizione

http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20731

How much does this need to become reality!
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 16:59 (Ref:2550663)   #2
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A lot!
My first though was "impossible, there's only one road car" - but that wouldn't be too much of a problem for the N24 if the organisers want the car to come.
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 20:24 (Ref:2550771)   #3
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If there was ever a candidate for a new GTP, this has to be it! Too bad the Enzo's V12 is too large, and has too many cylinders I think, to be allowed into the new LMP1 fold. Still, what a feast for the eyes!
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 20:40 (Ref:2550790)   #4
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Notice the ALMS "GTX" sticker on the sides... And I don't think Michelin is present on the Nurburgring.

With the rumors of an MC12 entering the ALMS, this could be it... dress the chassis up with that unique body and you have an entrant that the series would surely want to accommodate.
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 20:43 (Ref:2550793)   #5
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Notice the ALMS "GTX" sticker on the sides... And I don't think Michelin is present on the Nurburgring.
Of course they are.
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 21:30 (Ref:2550827)   #6
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It will be a completely new car underneath (so it isn't based on the Enzo!) but it will be a Ferrari!

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I think we've figured out the chassis/engine/gearbox. I should have a sketch and specifications soon.
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We still need a big sponsor but I'm hopeful as I think Ferrari P 4/5 Competizione would get a lot of exposure for a sponsor.

We're hoping to begin at the 24 of Nürburgring next year.
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We will set up a Race Team which will build and race the car. We will of course use specialists for various components.
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Ferrari P 4/5 Competizione will not be sold.

She will have a Ferrari chassis/vin#/engine and gearbox. She will of course not be SF but will run as part of our Scuderia.
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This venture isn't to make money. It's simply to enjoy ourselves and get some good exposure for a Sponsor who'd like to ride along. If you search Ferrari P 4/5 on the web you'll notice that this car has taken on a life of its own and hopefully a Sponsor will understand the potential of P 4/5 Competizione. We may even deceide to press on by our selves. The Adventure has begun and for me the road is often more interesting than the destination.
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P 4/5 Competizione would be built on a Ferrari Chassis and be powered by a Ferrari V 12.

She would not be Enzo/FXX/MCC based.

Our first race would be the 24 Hours of Nurburing.

She would run under my Families Scuderia Shield not NART's.
(Scuderia SG) (Cameron-Glickenhaus)

She would remain in her Sponsor livery and could run additional races. When her racing days are done she'd visit many events.

Once again this is dependent on obtaining sponsorship.
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 23:16 (Ref:2550884)   #7
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NART? 'This venture isn't to make money.' There's a business plan to draw them in, like moths to a flame.

Still, heck of an interesting looking thing.
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Old 29 Sep 2009, 23:23 (Ref:2550892)   #8
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Think it looks even better than the original. Hope a series over here will allow it to run or they'll at least bring it to some races.
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Old 30 Sep 2009, 06:20 (Ref:2550983)   #9
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Ferrari is one manufacturer we can all rely on for a good looking, but very expensive design.

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I wonder what chassis will be used?
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Old 1 Oct 2009, 22:53 (Ref:2552339)   #11
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I wonder what chassis will be used?
Not known (yet). This is what James Glickenhaus has said about it:

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It will be on a Ferrari Chassis that we will modify.
It will be powered by a Ferrari V12.
But it won't be a 599 of 612 because they are front engined and the P4/5 will be mid-engined. So maybe a revised F430?








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Old 1 Oct 2009, 23:00 (Ref:2552346)   #12
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'This venture isn't to make money. It's simply to enjoy ourselves and get some good exposure for a Sponsor who'd like to ride along.'

Now how cool is that? I love this guy.
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The last Ferrari sportscar to utilize the 4.0-litre V12 was the 333SP, I think. Though that would seem like a very out-of-date piece to dust off now.
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The last Ferrari sportscar to utilize the 4.0-litre V12 was the 333SP, I think. Though that would seem like a very out-of-date piece to dust off now.
Why because it uses pistons, springs, con-rods, etc.

I do not think any "special" config. is needed in racing nowadays, unless you are running a diesel, but I wonder if maybe Ferrari might, out the back-door, let them use a cylinder head that was made but never used.

The gent with the car used to post over at AtlasF1 site, he is a very nice person to comm. with.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the chassis being out of date. As long as the output they require isn't anything that outlandish, the 4.0-litre V12 ought to reliably do the trick, although, that engine might be considered a bit too heavy now. We shall see.
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Has a bit more information, among others that it will be the Ferrari 333Sp V12 that will be used.
I unfortunately i don't thing that this will race anywhere else than N24, because of homologating issues (isn't there a requirement, for a minimum amount of road cars build?)
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Has a bit more information, among others that it will be the Ferrari 333Sp V12 that will be used.
I unfortunately i don't thing that this will race anywhere else than N24, because of homologating issues (isn't there a requirement, for a minimum amount of road cars build?)
That is pure speculation! Glickenhaus hasn't said anything (yet) about the chassis and engine he is going to use. He only said that it will a Ferrari V12 and a Ferrari chassis (no carbon tub).

So we can speculate all we want
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If you want to avoid the speculation, follow this thread, the owner of the car posts in this thread quite often.
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Ah, in the owners last post, it appears that due to the way rules force everyone to be the same, it will be a V-8 and not a V-12.
For the horsepower allowed, the V-8 is better.
To bad , but still an interesting project.
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430 engine? If its to last for 24hrs then a 430GT engine would be ideal.
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Shakedown for the Ferrari P4/5 Competizione:

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Some videos of it on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/user/P45MT some demo runs, it looks the part for sure.
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Some videos of it on youtube, http://www.youtube.com/user/P45MT some demo runs, it looks the part for sure.
It sounds great, but it seems they are testing it on a little go-cart track and can't get it out of third gear.

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