2016 Blancpain GT Series - Page 43

Mitchi_S · 31 Jul 2016, 14:35 (Ref:3662597)

SLS Evo on P2 - amazing considering they had like a five minute penalty.

Rodger Davies · 31 Jul 2016, 14:42 (Ref:3662601)

Congratulations to Scudd, finished the world's biggest GT race!! Well done to the whole Lago team!

Rodger Davies · 31 Jul 2016, 14:43 (Ref:3662602)

Superb job from relatively new teams, in Rowe and Akka ASP too.

Rodger Davies · 31 Jul 2016, 14:45 (Ref:3662603)

Really happy for Alex Sims, a really nice guy the few times I've spoken to him, and Maxime Martin who has been the best driver in the GT3 era.

J Jay · 31 Jul 2016, 14:45 (Ref:3662604)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Congratulations to Scudd, finished the world's biggest GT race!! Well done to the whole Lago team!

Wait, their car wasn't caught up at the Bus Stop when the rain came down?

Congratulations for finishing the race!

Edit - Renge sounds very pleased!

Vanthoor does sound disappointed, and I can see why. Even with the accident 2nd was achievable for them.

Rodger Davies · 31 Jul 2016, 14:50 (Ref:3662606)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Wait, their car wasn't caught up at the Bus Stop when the rain came down?

No, was a Ferrari it was mixed up with. Or it got going again. Definitely finished anyway.

Speed-King · 31 Jul 2016, 15:00 (Ref:3662608)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Superb job from relatively new teams, in Rowe and Akka ASP too.

IIRC AKKA is the former Sofrev team, which in one form or another has been around since 1991.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Sport_Promotion

Rodger Davies · 31 Jul 2016, 15:06 (Ref:3662611)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

IIRC AKKA is the former Sofrev team, which in one form or another has been around since 1991.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Sport_Promotion

Touché, good point. Still impressed, they stepped up (with AMG support obviously) since running Ferraris a few years ago.

gert · 31 Jul 2016, 15:12 (Ref:3662613)

As far as I know, the team name = ASP = Auto Sport Promotion, with Sofrev before and AKKA now being the sponsor/partner.

GT6 · 31 Jul 2016, 15:14 (Ref:3662615)

a great race but m sport have a lot to answer for very sloppy work IMHO

**FIRE** · 31 Jul 2016, 19:57 (Ref:3662691)

Great race

Miguel · 1 Aug 2016, 09:01 (Ref:3662799)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Even if it only appears on the top 6, that's surely enough to say that there was involvement above the teams themselves.

No it's not. The cars were prepared at Affalterbach without any involvement from the teams (it is my understanding that the penalized cars are owned by AMG) and went straight to the track. AMG should go on record and just tell the world what happened, it's not as black and white as it would first appear.

chernaudi · 1 Aug 2016, 09:19 (Ref:3662802)

It's pretty clear that AMG did this with intent to cheat. Basically what they did was what Lamborghini did in IMSA at Daytona this year, which was cheating the technical regs and violating any homolgation and "anti-sandbagging" clauses.

I think that the message should be pretty clear, be it with the SRO, FIA or ACO: you get caught cheating with deliberate intent to do so, you do the crime, you do the time. And if you cheat or sandbag, don't be surprised if the sanctioning body retaliates. That could've saved the whole BOP debacle that the ACO had on their hands at Le Mans this year in GTE.

Miguel · 1 Aug 2016, 10:03 (Ref:3662813)

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S griffin · 1 Aug 2016, 11:35 (Ref:3662829)

I love the Spa 24 hours and it was another great race

Those cars spinning in the deluge at the Bus Stop reminds me of the first lap of the 2010 Belgian GP at the same corner

Akrapovic · 1 Aug 2016, 16:43 (Ref:3662892)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel

No it's not. The cars were prepared at Affalterbach without any involvement from the teams (it is my understanding that the penalized cars are owned by AMG) and went straight to the track. AMG should go on record and just tell the world what happened, it's not as black and white as it would first appear.

Maybe we're misunderstanding each other, but isn't that what I'm saying? That this has to be involvement from AMG, because it happened consistently with a whole bunch of cars. This is beyond the teams making a decision.

Miguel · 1 Aug 2016, 19:02 (Ref:3662913)

Then we are saying the same thing, yes. At least two AMG teams had no idea the mapping was in SRO's eyes illegal (I didn't ask the other), and my friend who works electronics for another GT3 manufacturer also told me that as far as he knows editing the engine mapping is not available to customers to the teams that run his cars. Definitely not the teams fault.

Akrapovic · 1 Aug 2016, 19:41 (Ref:3662919)

If you don't mind me asking, if the teams aren't able to change the engine mapping, then why was it only declared illegal during superpole? Was it changed by an AMG Technician/Engineer, rather than by the teams? I take it all of the AMG teams are assigned an Engineer by Mercedes? This is all very interesting, so thank you for posting!

Miguel · 1 Aug 2016, 20:04 (Ref:3662928)

I don't know if that's also the case for AMG, but I would assume it is as it's a homologation part so not something a manufacturer would want customers to tinker with anyway.

GregUK · 2 Aug 2016, 09:24 (Ref:3662990)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Congratulations to Scudd, finished the world's biggest GT race!! Well done to the whole Lago team!

I believe that a slab or two were on offer to the team should they make the finish!

Great result for a true privateer team!

GregUK · 2 Aug 2016, 09:38 (Ref:3662993)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

If you don't mind me asking, if the teams aren't able to change the engine mapping, then why was it only declared illegal during superpole?

Because it was only discovered in the post-superpole technical checks (and that's why only the MBs in the superpole shootout got stop/go penalties).

NaBUru38 · 2 Aug 2016, 12:36 (Ref:3663032)

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Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Do you really need two english speaking announce teams seriously?

In South America, several radio stations air the major football matches. Fans can pick their favourite style: classy, grotesque, boring, partisan...

My brother listens to Pasión Tricolor, where all journalists support Nacional and express themselves rather passionately.

It would be cool to have a Ferrari Tifosi Radio.

scudd · 3 Aug 2016, 19:29 (Ref:3663304)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Congratulations to Scudd, finished the world's biggest GT race!! Well done to the whole Lago team!

Thanks Rodger and gregUK.

J Jay · 3 Aug 2016, 19:57 (Ref:3663313)

Congratulations Scudd. Getting through any 24 hour race is an achievement to be celebrated

Onto a more sour topic, just heard on MWM (from Goodwin) that it definitely wasn't just the ignition timing of the Superpole AMG-GTs that caught the stewards' attention. His interpretation of Mercedes' statement (I've not seen it yet) is that Mercedes basically admit to all the changes, but they try to argue that they didn't know it was strictly illegal.

TF110 · 3 Aug 2016, 22:20 (Ref:3663341)

They were fast in the race regardless. Came within a shot for the win.

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