Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued... - Page 41

drbob · 17 Apr 2006, 00:57 (Ref:1585463)

yep

groupnxu1 · 17 Apr 2006, 01:39 (Ref:1585475)

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Originally Posted by drbob

yep

what sort of Group A project are you looking for DRBOB?

drbob · 17 Apr 2006, 03:03 (Ref:1585493)

groupnxu1, anything from the shell up but basically most parts there ,but not a restored car. I like to tool around myself although I am no mechanic
Commodore or Ford would be good but they seem so scarce ( those for restoration anyway) that I guess I would look at most cars. A Group C Ford would be my pick but they are not available from what I can see
Bathurst history would be nice

rdmdog · 17 Apr 2006, 03:37 (Ref:1585500)

Checkout the For Sale part of http://www.groupc.com.au/

There are a few there.

lloyd12a · 17 Apr 2006, 06:34 (Ref:1585533)

G'Day
Does anybody know of any Mazda rx2-3-7 that might be for sale

lloyd12a · 24 Apr 2006, 06:03 (Ref:1593432)

ANYBODY?I'm talkin Group C type! Somebody must know of one how may sell if MONEY'S right.

jd yort · 30 Apr 2006, 11:29 (Ref:1598081)

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Originally Posted by lloyd12a

G'Day
Does anybody know of any Mazda rx2-3-7 that might be for sale

Hey lloyd 12a, you are going to be hard pressed finding a group c RX7 for sale. From my understanding there was around 15 of them.

In the 83 Bathurst there was 14 Rx7's. 2 were the Peter Stuyvesants cars of which Bowden owns one and the other recently appeared on ebay and was a mess. The only one I have seen on the track recently is the BF Goodrich car which I think was the Ron Gillard car. Majority of them ended up as Sports Sedans.

Not sure which ones became the Ezi Pav cars run by the Stone's. Graham Neilson was running a Rx7 that may have been ex Group C in 1991 and John Cook had an Rx7 that could have been an ex Group C car. I have a vague memory of Shiel running an old group C rx7 in sports sedans at one point. Does the slick 50 Peter Mcleod car still exist?? That always looked the goods.

groupnxu1 · 30 Apr 2006, 12:33 (Ref:1598113)

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Originally Posted by lloyd12a

ANYBODY?I'm talkin Group C type! Somebody must know of one how may sell if MONEY'S right.

How right is the Money?

lloyd12a · 1 May 2006, 11:10 (Ref:1598671)

The condition,type,race history,etc.

St00ge · 1 May 2006, 14:39 (Ref:1598781)

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Originally Posted by jd yort

In the 83 Bathurst there was 14 Rx7's. 2 were the Peter Stuyvesants cars of which Bowden owns one and the other recently appeared on ebay and was a mess.

I think there were more than 2 Pete Stuyv rx7s built over the years as I know of one that just had a rebuild to be raced in group C and wasn't on ebay or the bowdens one

**GTRMagic** · 1 May 2006, 14:43 (Ref:1598786)

There is a book about the Mazda Rx7 & Moff's use of them... I would be surprised if there werent at least 5 built... the original one with help from Japan, the one Cesario destroyed, the spanker built for Bathurst 1984 and the other two used in between...

cornermsport · 2 May 2006, 01:38 (Ref:1599082)

I thought there were actually 4 Moffat RX7's 2 R/H drives and 2 L/H drives.

I think the first car is the car that is here in Sydney, that pops on and off Ebay. I have heard the price that the owner is asking, and believe me, he is going to own it for a while.

The second car, a R/H drive was destroyed in the Surfers crash involving Wilmington. The final 2 were the L/H drive cars, one of which is in the Bowden shed.

I have that Moffat book at home, but i think the info is in the 1984 James Hardie book.

The mystery is where's the other L/H drive car located??

Sultan · 2 May 2006, 02:47 (Ref:1599103)

The Peter McLeod Slick 50 car was ownd for a while by Charlie Senese in the mid to late '80's & raced as a sports sedan (IIRC still in Gp C spec). Not sure after that though...

Nivola · 2 May 2006, 04:03 (Ref:1599111)

and the missing rx7 is sitting in WA.

It is now own by one paul stubber

it the moffat handsford one and i think if i remember right it is the 6 speeder

racer69 · 2 May 2006, 04:13 (Ref:1599114)

I'm with 4 Moffat Mazda's as well;

- 1981 car debuted at Sandown
- LHD car built for enduro's in 1982
- New car built after 1983 ATCC (co-incided with the 13B acceptance)
- New car built after the Surfers crash in 1984

St00ge · 2 May 2006, 05:01 (Ref:1599121)

Also didn't moffat race one overseas aswell at a enduro race somewhere? (USA I think??) it was modified from group c spec to be more competitive in the race and is still in that modified spec I belive (so not able to be run in group c unless changed back)

William Dale Jr · 2 May 2006, 06:42 (Ref:1599135)

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Originally Posted by St00ge

Also didn't moffat race one overseas aswell at a enduro race somewhere? (USA I think??) it was modified from group c spec to be more competitive in the race and is still in that modified spec I belive (so not able to be run in group c unless changed back)

Yeah, that was one of the LHD cars. It ran in IMSA spec. at the 1985 Daytona 24 Hour. This car appeared as a Sports Sedan in the late 80's run (IIRC) by Matt Wacker. Moffat also drove one of the two RHD cars at Macau in 1981.

cornermsport · 2 May 2006, 06:55 (Ref:1599138)

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Originally Posted by Nivola

and the missing rx7 is sitting in WA.

It is now own by one paul stubber

it the moffat handsford one and i think if i remember right it is the 6 speeder

Ah yes!! Thanks for that, i had a mental blank!!

If this is the 6 speeder, would this be the ex Matt Wacker car as i do remember reading an article about Matt buying the car, which only had the 5 speed, then returning to Allan to buy the 6 speed. The negotiated price was $1000 per gear, so Matt arrived with $6000 in hand, to which, Allan said "It has a reverse too!"

Matt had to scrape up another 1k and the box was his!!

Nivola · 2 May 2006, 06:56 (Ref:1599139)

stooge and dale

that car is the stubber car.

It was at Trevor Young's(biante) funeral.

It is a magic car

St00ge · 2 May 2006, 08:18 (Ref:1599179)

The one which was updated to IMSA spec and raced in the 24 hour isn't stubbers as I spoke to a guy who owns that car (still in IMSA spec atm apparently) So there might of been 5 in the end.

cavvy · 2 May 2006, 12:40 (Ref:1599333)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There is a book about the Mazda Rx7 & Moff's use of them... I would be surprised if there werent at least 5 built... the original one with help from Japan, the one Cesario destroyed, the spanker built for Bathurst 1984 and the other two used in between...

... & your source for the claim Lucio Cesario destroyed a Moffat RX7 is ?

Fair dinkum 100% schizen GTR !
The car blew a tyre .. you didnt know that .. Moff wasnt happy Lucio was so much quicker is another version .. the car was destroyed, yeah, pull the other leg !!

racer69 · 2 May 2006, 19:57 (Ref:1599620)

Cesario gave his version of events a while later in an interview with 'Australian Motor Racing and GT' (AA's then sister magazine), i'll get it out and post the relevant question/answers

Steve Holmes · 2 May 2006, 20:35 (Ref:1599654)

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Originally Posted by William Dale Jr

Yeah, that was one of the LHD cars. It ran in IMSA spec. at the 1985 Daytona 24 Hour. This car appeared as a Sports Sedan in the late 80's run (IIRC) by Matt Wacker. Moffat also drove one of the two RHD cars at Macau in 1981.

He also ran an RX7 in the 1982 Daytona 24hrs. Car number 98, shared with Kathy Rude and Lee Mueller. Started 45th, finished 6th, and first in GTU.

Theres a pic on this page: http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-31-photo.html

pete55 · 4 May 2006, 06:25 (Ref:1600451)

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Originally Posted by cornermsport

The final 2 were the L/H drive cars, one of which is in the Bowden shed.

Work took me to the Bowden's today and i had a bit of a look around but at least on the main floor there was no Moffat Mazda. The Moffat Mustang was there as were the Neptune Geoghegan and Paul Fahey Mustangs, the Geoghegan Super Falcon and the Hamilton Porsche 911S. The "Phase 4 XA" and two Moffat Falcons were there, the Bartlett Camaro and a Brock VH Group A amongst some of them. Sadly the Beechey Monaro wasn't there, it is apparently currently in Bathurst at the Museum. Chris told me that the next open day will probably be in December so keep a watch out for details on how to get to do the tour.

Henry · 4 May 2006, 11:05 (Ref:1600587)

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Originally Posted by pete55

Work took me to the Bowden's today and i had a bit of a look around but at least on the main floor there was no Moffat Mazda. The Moffat Mustang was there as were the Neptune Geoghegan and Paul Fahey Mustangs, the Geoghegan Super Falcon and the Hamilton Porsche 911S. The "Phase 4 XA" and two Moffat Falcons were there, the Bartlett Camaro and a Brock VH Group A amongst some of them. Sadly the Beechey Monaro wasn't there, it is apparently currently in Bathurst at the Museum. Chris told me that the next open day will probably be in December so keep a watch out for details on how to get to do the tour.

Dang! They've got the Neptune Mustang too?

AMC mag this month has a piccy showing a left-hook Stuyvo Mazda amongst the treasures during the Bowden's Own tour....

.... wil be watching keenly for tour details...

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