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28 Oct 2015, 08:35 (Ref:3586138) | #151 | |
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There are a few members on this forum who push false agendas and conspiracy theories to talk up V8SC too..... there is still way too much barrow pushing around here....
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I just wish i had a barrow to push...
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AFL, NRL, A-Leauge, Cricket, NBL etc sell season tickets or memberships to the public. They announce crowds who then walk through the gate and are at the game - not if you happen to hold a ticket for that game. Eg. South Sydney have 35,000 ticketed members yet announced 1 crowd of over 35'000 all 2015 season V8SC regardless of whether you attend, watching on TV or are asleep in bed - if you have a 4 day ticket you get counted to the 'official crowds', 4 times and lumped in the economic multipliers that V8SC are famous for. A prime example of this was the auditor generals report into the v8sc Canberra 400 & Sydney 500 events |
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31 Oct 2015, 03:32 (Ref:3586812) | #154 | ||
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motosport does not really have a membership thing (starting to develop it though), it works on ticket sales. which funnily enough so does those sports, they dont consider a membership a sale to it is used though, but they combine that with those that buy tickets even if they dont attend Just out of interest you have never questioned "Australia's International Endurance Race" numbers even though they use the same counting method, any reason you show a bias in this? Last edited by peckstar; 31 Oct 2015 at 03:37. |
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1 Nov 2015, 06:38 (Ref:3587104) | #156 | |
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maybe, who can say, different levels of membership. some membership provides no ground admittance or maybe 1 game admittance
AFL teams have to pay a fee for ground hire which is based in part on the number of people who attend, thus attendance is counted by people who turn up Motorsport do not pay this fee, nor do they have a membership base, They operate on tickets sold, All solely ticketed events are counted this way, especially motorsport including the F1 GP and the bathurst 12 hour |
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1 Nov 2015, 09:42 (Ref:3587166) | #157 | |
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A number of V8 teams do have a membership program now, with the members getting a bit of team kit and generally a voucher for free entry for one day (or the entire race weekend) with it as well.
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1 Nov 2015, 11:18 (Ref:3587180) | #158 | |
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The voucher/free ticket , does that get counted as an attendee regardless of whether they go or not?
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1 Nov 2015, 11:21 (Ref:3587182) | #159 | |
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yes its just something new, The membership will be counted as a ticket when the voucher is turned into a ticket. It wont be counted before that point same as with AFL
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It's just like when I have my V8 ute team hard pass and enter and leave the circuit 3 or 4 times during the same day. I am counted 4 times as a spectator. Great way to get the numbers up.
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If they're scanning the system shows the same barcode coming in and out so only counted the once. If, as has been suggested, the number of cards issued to entered teams is what is used for the entry count, the number of times you come and go would make no difference. In the other hand, if there's some kind of pass out system, they'd allow for that when you come back in as well. |
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3 Nov 2015, 00:47 (Ref:3587690) | #162 | |
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No you not, you are counted once a day for each of the 3 days They dont even count the people as they go in and out, Its based on ticket sales and a hard pass is a 3 day ticket (assuming its a 3 day event)
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3 Nov 2015, 00:56 (Ref:3587691) | #163 | |
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Who really cares how they count, and how many times they count you during the same day. At the end of the day everyone knows the numbers are cooked to the max to make them look better than they are.
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On a slightly related topic, if I walk into Coles and get a can of tomatoes, then go next door to Woolies, purchase a can of beans, and when walking out through the cashier aisle the buzzer doesn't go off, how does the system know I'm not stealing the can of tomatoes?
Is this system intelligence used in sport ticketing for the "pass-out" method? |
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3 Nov 2015, 01:10 (Ref:3587694) | #165 | |
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As long as they are consistant in their approach, then it doesnt matter, well unless you have a long term vendetta against v8 supercars, then you get your panties in a twist over it
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Just trying to think of a system that would allow pass outs without counting, so that these forums can go on without the constant bickering of ticket counting that is repetitive, utterly boring and detracting to actual discussions on interesting topics, and if the system is already available, why reinvent the wheel? |
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3 Nov 2015, 23:00 (Ref:3587956) | #168 | ||
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Which is what we have because we cant ticket sales not who goes in and out of a venue |
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This talk about scanning when you come in and out its NOTHING about the numbers reported, it is just about stopping people passing out with a bunch of tickets and bringing more people in... Storm in a tea cup.
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