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Old 8 Jun 2013, 23:03 (Ref:3259506)   #1
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Goodbye Falcon...enter the Fusion!

the falcons replacement?

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Old 8 Jun 2013, 23:46 (Ref:3259521)   #2
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the falcons replacement?

It looks mean........but looks don't win races.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 00:58 (Ref:3259537)   #3
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the falcons replacement?

I don't get all this 'Fusion' talk about it coming to V8SC.....Seeing as the Fusion is already sold in Australia as a Mondeo.

It would have as much chance of winning a race as the current Falcon does, given the current ruleset, the bodyshape is irrelevant.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 01:02 (Ref:3259538)   #4
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I don't get all this 'Fusion' talk about it coming to V8SC.....Seeing as the Fusion is already sold in Australia as a Mondeo.

It would have as much chance of winning a race as the current Falcon does, given the current ruleset, the bodyshape is irrelevant.
Not to mention the same type of wheel nut to change ?
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 02:07 (Ref:3259549)   #5
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Still if you're going to lose anyway, may as well look good while you're doing it.......from that pic it would be the best looking car on the grid.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 02:37 (Ref:3259552)   #6
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Still if you're going to lose anyway, may as well look good while you're doing it.......from that pic it would be the best looking car on the grid.
Yep, doesn't look too bad.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 03:47 (Ref:3259557)   #7
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Yep, doesn't look too bad.
Not so sure about that open grill though.......looks like a bit of an aero problem......lol.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 03:56 (Ref:3259559)   #8
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I don't get all this 'Fusion' talk about it coming to V8SC.....Seeing as the Fusion is already sold in Australia as a Mondeo.
The current Mondeo sold in Australia is a different looking car to the current Fusion
sold in the States etc and as used as the basis for that photoshopped concept.
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Old 9 Jun 2013, 04:51 (Ref:3259566)   #9
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The current Mondeo sold in Australia is a different looking car to the current Fusion
sold in the States etc and as used as the basis for that photoshopped concept.
Although its sold as Mondeo here, Ford will more than likley market it as the Fusion, or badge it as the evolution of the Falcon. Anyone had any market research calls? Since they race the Fusion in Nascar, I would hedge a bet they will do the same here.
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Old 10 Jun 2013, 13:25 (Ref:3260356)   #10
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Um, how about the Mustang instead of the Fusion/Mondeo. It has a V8, and it raced before.
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Old 10 Jun 2013, 15:59 (Ref:3260431)   #11
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Um, how about the Mustang instead of the Fusion/Mondeo. It has a V8, and it raced before.
Aussie V8s have to have four doors. Mustang doesn't have that.

That's actually a very sick idea, that picture.
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Old 10 Jun 2013, 18:05 (Ref:3260491)   #12
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Aussie V8s have to have four doors. Mustang doesn't have that.

That's actually a very sick idea, that picture.
Simple solution, just make a Mustang with four doors.........it's COtF remember, not road cars developed for racing.
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Old 10 Jun 2013, 18:20 (Ref:3260498)   #13
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The next-gen Mustang will be smaller, and it would look tiny in comparison with the Commodore and E-Class. Now, the Mustang could race against a new Holden Torana...

That Mondeo looks much racier than the current Falcon.
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Old 11 Jun 2013, 02:07 (Ref:3260703)   #14
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Dunno that Ford will go around again. Their market is now small/medium and SUV/Light Commercial. While Toyota and Mazda have dominated vehicle sales with minimal motorsport exposure, Ford have been slow to adapt their marketing to the new era and struggle to lead any sales class.

With a full factory backed effort unable to deliver the desired results, what rationale exists to suggest a watered down effort can put them back on top. NASCAR in the US is entirely different, as the style of circuits and the money the sport has for parity enforcement means all manufacturers get a fair shake of victory lane celebrations.
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Old 12 Jun 2013, 11:54 (Ref:3261450)   #15
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The thread is called GoodBye Falcon enter the Fusion.

That will be right for sure if FPR is involved, it will be CON FUSION.
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Well, there's some spy photos of the future Msutang, and it's roughly the same size as the current one. So yes, it more or less looks like a decent candidate to replace the Falcon at the V8 Supercars.
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Old 12 Jun 2013, 20:24 (Ref:3261762)   #17
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Is there any credible reason why the COtF has to have four doors?
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Old 12 Jun 2013, 22:52 (Ref:3261828)   #18
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The Black Wiggle said so?
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 01:21 (Ref:3261872)   #19
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The Black Wiggle said so?
Lol........I'll take that as a "no".

The black wiggle also once said that the engines had to be a cast iron pushrod V8.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 01:29 (Ref:3261875)   #20
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The DTM and Superstars have allowed the coupe Audis, BMWs and Mercs and are no longer really touring car series some would argue.
Where the Mondeo would fit in having enough doors but also having a hatchback ??? The Volvo is built on the Mondeo platform as well so I guess anything goes these days, the more the merrier.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 06:11 (Ref:3261919)   #21
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Lol........I'll take that as a "no".

The black wiggle also once said that the engines had to be a cast iron pushrod V8.

ok then i'll get official.

From the V8SC Ops Manual:

DIVISION “C” – VCS TECHNICAL RULES

C1.1 Technical Definition
1.1.1 The requirements of the Rules apply to a Car,and will be limited to manufacturers of anAutomobile that complies with Rule C1.1.2 below and the relevant VSD for that model of Car.
1.1.2 For a model of Automobile to be considered eligible for approval as a Car it must:
1.1.2.1 be based on a four door production Automobile;
1.1.2.2 be commercially available in Australia;
1.1.2.3 have a minimum production volume of 5000 Automobiles worldwide;
1.1.2.4 have a minimum production volume of 3500 Automobiles by the manufacturers accredited ‘Special Vehicles’ division;
1.1.2.5 be of suitable size for the Bodywork to be adapted to the Chassis;
1.1.2.6 be right hand drive in race configuration;
1.1.2.7 be rear wheel drive in race configuration;
1.1.2.8 be powered by a V8 engine with a maximum capacity of 5000cc in raceconfiguration
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Maybe it's time to change that rule.
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Old 13 Jun 2013, 07:17 (Ref:3261941)   #23
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Perhaps the COTF eligibility should be revisited for 2015/16? Why not add 2-doors to the mix?

2-doors have a big history in the ATCC, and now that GM/Ford are no longer supporting the whole show, and not keeping the likes of Toyota, Nissan etc out of the game, perhaps the disappearance of the Falcon could be the catalyst?

I'd love to see the Mustang out there, perhaps with the Camaro - but the rule on commercial availablity would also need considering. I don't think the LHD conversion game would meet the "commercial availability" criteria, but you never know.
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Why not one of these
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