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Old 1 Jul 2009, 12:56 (Ref:2494466)   #1
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Who's gone, Raikkonen or Massa?

Well, after reading speculation for months about Alonso going to Ferrari (and lately about the Sept 11th, 2009 announcement), which driver is getting the boot?
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 13:05 (Ref:2494474)   #2
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and lately about the Sept 11th, 2009 announcement
What announcement? Link?
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 13:12 (Ref:2494480)   #3
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Definitely Kimi, 100%. In terms of results he & Massa are similar, but Kimi's retainer is much, much bigger.

It is rumoured that Ferrari wanted rid of Kimi last winter, but his contract was watertight.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 13:20 (Ref:2494484)   #4
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what then kimi to renault lol cant see him and flavio getting on lol
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 13:26 (Ref:2494489)   #5
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what then kimi to renault lol cant see him and flavio getting on lol
I think he'll retire from F1 at the end of 2009. After that, we might see outings in other branches of the sport, such as rallying or sportscars.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 14:20 (Ref:2494505)   #6
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Kimi in DTM?? that would make good viewing!!
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 14:20 (Ref:2494506)   #7
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Hadn't Kimi been ranting on about he would be going where ever Ferrari go, (FOTA breakaway), as he is contracted to them? Pretty sure I read it in a quote from him, so I am sure he doesn't seem to be thinking about leaving, or either he is pumping up his payout value from them...
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 14:40 (Ref:2494515)   #8
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Hadn't Kimi been ranting on about he would be going where ever Ferrari go, (FOTA breakaway), as he is contracted to them?
Ranting? I'd say it was a carefully worded statement from a man toeing the company line.

Regardless of his contract, I can't see Kimi driving for the Scuderia in 2010.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 15:12 (Ref:2494533)   #9
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Raikkonen. He'll go and do rallying which he clearly has an interest in, the poor guy is bored out of his head in F1
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Definitely Kimi.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 16:05 (Ref:2494562)   #11
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Here is the link to Sept 11th announcement.


http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...30095159.shtml

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Old 1 Jul 2009, 16:46 (Ref:2494589)   #12
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It'd be great to see Alonso back in a front-running car. Let's just hope Ferrari can give him that.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 19:43 (Ref:2494677)   #13
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Ranting? I'd say it was a carefully worded statement from a man toeing the company line.

Regardless of his contract, I can't see Kimi driving for the Scuderia in 2010.
To be fair, Kimi has said that for 2010 he'd be driving a Ferrari, but he didn't state it would be in F1
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If, what, possibly, maybe, perhaps. As we United supporters say, they are playing for United when they turn up on the pitch with a red shirt on. In this case red overalls.
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Old 1 Jul 2009, 23:25 (Ref:2494791)   #16
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If anyone goes, it is Raikkonen. Despite his one world championship I think Kimi will probably go down as a driver that did not really fulfil his massive potential and raw talent.

Unlike so many drivers that have a claim to never having had the team, the car, the resources, the money - Raikkonen can only really look in the mirror as to the reasons why.

However, I suspect Kimi doesn't care in the slightest...
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Kimi. I can't remember another driver at the top of the sport whose heart was so clearly not in it.
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Old 2 Jul 2009, 15:49 (Ref:2495089)   #18
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I am sure Kimi will leave and begin rallying, if not now than sooner or later. Why not? He's won a world championship and made enough to live happily ever after in F1. He's clearly got prodigious driving talent. He also seems bored, and rallying would be the perfect place for someone in that situation, especially a Finn.
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and kkim has got ADHD
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Really? Have a read of this and then tell me he has ADHD. I'm assuming you mean Kimi, by the way.
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ADHD? Kimi? He's arguably the world's most chilled-out professional sporstsman!
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If anyone goes, it is Raikkonen. Despite his one world championship I think Kimi will probably go down as a driver that did not really fulfil his massive potential and raw talent.

Unlike so many drivers that have a claim to never having had the team, the car, the resources, the money - Raikkonen can only really look in the mirror as to the reasons why.

However, I suspect Kimi doesn't care in the slightest...
Agree.

I think Kimi is showing a lack of professionalism. A professional driver is supposed to get the best result possible for his team regardless of whether he is fighting for the championship or a back marker struggling to get points. While Kimi is generally motivated while chasing the title, when he's not, such as now, he becomes dissinterested.

The ice cream race in Malaysia summed it all up. At the time he pulled into the pits and got out of the car, he was not in a position to tell whether or not the race would be restarted. While he wasnt contenting for the lead, by pulling into the pits he lost a couple of places and would have started further down the pack if the race had restarted.
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The ice cream race in Malaysia summed it all up. At the time he pulled into the pits and got out of the car, he was not in a position to tell whether or not the race would be restarted. While he wasn't contenting for the lead, by pulling into the pits he lost a couple of places and would have started further down the pack if the race had restarted.
Sorry, but you're mistaken. Like most of Kimi's detractors, you haven't got your facts right.

At the point Kimi got out of the car in Malaysia, changed and started sucking an ice cream, the decision had already been taken by the team that the car would not take the restart, even if there was one. There was a fault with the KERS system, I believe due to the torrential rain. Water and electricity don't mix too well.
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It is quite naive to think that Ferrari would allow its driver to retire a healthy car.
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