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Old 17 Nov 2020, 11:02 (Ref:4017425)   #101
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track 55 is a layout I'm in two minds about in terms of scale. both layouts are clockwise.

the smaller scale makes it a small layout for national, club and school level events. scale is 1cm=25cm, giving the track length of 3.25km (130cm)

the larger scale makes this a GP length track with an emphasis on power, and would put strain on gearboxes with 4 runs from a low gear to high. scale is 1cm=40cm, giving a track length of 5.2km (130cm)

for reference the start/finish straight is 13cm on paper
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Old 17 Nov 2020, 17:48 (Ref:4017498)   #102
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Interesting circuit, just thinking what series would be best suited to it?

I think these are all great ideas, maybe you should be pitching for Hermann Tilke's job, if we need another circuit built.
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Old 17 Nov 2020, 20:54 (Ref:4017540)   #103
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I like your last layout. In particular the fast kinks on the main straight.

You probably mean 1cm=40m.
You have a tendency in your tracks to start flowing S-curves after a slow hairpin.
Could you make a fast approach to the esses? Would make them a lot more challenging.
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Old 4 Dec 2020, 05:46 (Ref:4020518)   #104
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Track 56 is a clockwise layout with 15 corners.

The feature of this track is T3-5, with all 3 being long loaded corners requiring patience for the long run to the overtaking zone at T6. this section was designed for time gain/loss more than overtaking, but it may be possible at T4 with different lines.

scale is 1cm=25cm, giving the front straight a length of 700m(28cm), and track length of 3.45km(138cm).
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Old 3 Jan 2021, 11:04 (Ref:4026553)   #105
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Track 57 is an anti clockwise layout with 9 corners on the full layout aimed at TCR and other national events. scale is 1cm=25m, giving the front straight a length of 575m (23cm) and a track length of 2.8km (112cm)
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Old 6 Jan 2021, 09:09 (Ref:4027105)   #106
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Any idea where you thinking of having this circuit?
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Old 7 Jan 2021, 11:48 (Ref:4027397)   #107
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Any idea where you thinking of having this circuit?
Aside from Rfactor? I've never really thought about locations all that much with any of my circuits. yeah I would like it to be within walking distance to my house but that's not really going to happen.
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Old 2 Feb 2021, 08:00 (Ref:4032946)   #108
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track 58 is a 14 turn, anti clockwise course. T2 is slightly banked by 2 degrees. scale is 1cm=25cm, giving the front straight a length of 525m (21cm) and a track length of 3.5km (140cm)
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Old 2 Feb 2021, 08:05 (Ref:4032948)   #109
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this is a better photo of track 58
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Old 2 Feb 2021, 12:43 (Ref:4032995)   #110
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Not bad, hopefully you can find some good land to have it built on
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Old 1 Mar 2021, 00:49 (Ref:4037517)   #111
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track 59 is an anti-clockwise circuit that favours power with only 4-5 braking zones at the end of long straights, with the shortest straight being 700m. scale is 1cm=50m, giving the front straight a length of 1.5km (30cm), and a track length of 5km (100cm).
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Old 16 Mar 2021, 06:33 (Ref:4040702)   #112
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Track 60 is a circuit I designed watching formula E, more specifically a race at Berlin Tempelhof. for those who don't know it, its a street styled layout on a large slab of concrete near the terminal of the old Tempelhof airport. during the pandemic in an effort to finish the season, the series ran 6 races in 9 days on 2 different layouts (technically 3, but they just reversed the first one). due to it not being on public roads, it has the advantage to take its own shape.

i like street tracks when they're done right, but most times they are limited by the roads around them. I have followed the idea of a street style permanent course twice on this thread (tracks 25 & 32)

track 60 is an anti clockwise circuit with 18 corners and not a huge margin for error. scale is 1cm=20m, with the front straight being 420m (21cm).
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That is definitely a Formula E type circuit, would suit them to a tee. And good location you have picked too. Well done, it's certainly looks better than some of the other circuits they have raced on

It's hard to find the right place to do a street circuit and of course logistics come into it too. As well as the fact there are more than enough street circuits as it is. Formula E though seems to be alright, it seems there are no limit to the places it can go and use
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Old 11 Apr 2021, 03:43 (Ref:4045493)   #114
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today I'll be releasing 2 tracks to keep my quota up after holidays

track 60 is a clockwise circuit with 19 corners. the T17-18 chicane while being a braking zone, it is still a fast chicane with high kerbs to get a run to the final overtaking zone. scale is 1cm=30cm, giving the front straight a length of 690m (23cm)
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Old 11 Apr 2021, 07:09 (Ref:4045506)   #115
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track 62 was an older design I had done small scale a while ago, and only found recently and done full scale. layout is anticlockwise with 16 corners. scale is 1cm=25m, giving the front straight a length of 525 (21cm).
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Old 10 May 2021, 00:18 (Ref:4050732)   #116
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track 63 is a layout I imagine will have a high average speed. All layouts are clockwise

The original layout has 4 corners and is 2.225km. As cars got faster and lap times got too short, a chicane was added to lower speeds and lengthen the lap time. But the 150m addition was only a small fix.

The extension made the full layout 3.250km in length with 14 turns. However, the original layout can still be used by smaller categories.
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track 64 is a clockwise layout with 18 corners on its longest variant. scale is 1cm=40m. giving the front straight a length of 560m(14cm). outer T1 would be used more then the T1-2-3 chicane.
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track 65 is an anticlockwise layout with 10 corners for its fastest layout. scale is 1cm=25m, giving the front straight a length of 425m (17cm), and a track length of 3.575km (143cm).
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The most recent design is very "2nd gear hairpin".

I like how your street circuit design has turned out. By any chance, would you consider removing the chicane from the kink in the backstretch? That would create another overtaking opportunity.

Track 63 would be a lot of fun to drive in anticlockwise direction, too.

Track 58 looks a lot like it might have been influenced by Magny-Cours.

Track 51 has got a cool shape but it's a little too angular for my taste. Maybe turning the kinks and hairpins into increasing or decreasing radius corners from the beginning of the 2nd time sector onwards would help with that.

Track 53 is an absolute beauty in terms of flow. It should be great for sportscars.

The kink on the backstretch of Track 57 (right edge of the drawing) has got a runoff problem.
Apart from that, I like this design a lot because its combination of fast and slow sections creates a situation where a compromise in setup is needed, and not just as far as downforce is concerned, but asymmetry as well.
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The most recent design is very "2nd gear hairpin".

I like how your street circuit design has turned out. By any chance, would you consider removing the chicane from the kink in the backstretch? That would create another overtaking opportunity.

Track 63 would be a lot of fun to drive in anticlockwise direction, too.

Track 58 looks a lot like it might have been influenced by Magny-Cours.

Track 51 has got a cool shape but it's a little too angular for my taste. Maybe turning the kinks and hairpins into increasing or decreasing radius corners from the beginning of the 2nd time sector onwards would help with that.

Track 53 is an absolute beauty in terms of flow. It should be great for sportscars.

The kink on the backstretch of Track 57 (right edge of the drawing) has got a runoff problem.
Apart from that, I like this design a lot because its combination of fast and slow sections creates a situation where a compromise in setup is needed, and not just as far as downforce is concerned, but asymmetry as well.
thanks for your feedback mate, I'll try respond in order.

the most recent track will more likely suit bikes over cars, hence its shape

the street tracks back chicane could be tweaked to move the kerb so the straight could be an option, it was designed for the first gen FE cars (yeah, that's my backlog, think I've got track 100 done, not that I keep count)

track 63 could be done, would just need 3 more sand pits at T1, 4 and 14.

track 58, I never noticed that till you mentioned it. I was just extending the infield section.

track 51, yeah, I really only focused on the first sector, and just hashed the rest.

track 53 is probably one of my personal favourites too.

the kink on 57 looks tighter than its meant to be, its meant to be like the back straight at Pukekohe.

phew, that was a lot of typing, a lot more than I usually do.
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track 66 is based on old British circuits like brands hatch and Goodwood with a few revisions like straightening the front straight, tightening T1 and adding tighter corners while leaving most of the original layout useable. track is anticlockwise and has 12 corners on its main layout(middle T3 used in main layout). scale is 1cm=30cm, giving the front straight a length of 540m(18cm) and a track length of 3.750km(125cm).
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Track 67 is a circuit which has some very steep sections, maybe even too steep to be realistic. but its not like this'll go further than RFactor, so stuff it.

Track is anti-clockwise, contains 20 corners, and is 4.24km in length. track is divided into 3 sectors.

Sector 1 is between the S/F line and T5. sector is 1.35km long and drops 50m in altitude after the kink on the S/F straight.

Sector 2 starts at T5 and ends between T13-14 and climbs 80m from T5. sector is 1.14km in length. this sector is designed so drivers would use a lower gear longer to keep up momentum and make fuel saving harder.

Sector 3 covers the rest of the lap, spans 1.75km and drops 30m between T14 and T19.
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track 68 is a clockwise layout with 24 corners. scale is 1cm=40m , giving the front straight a length of 640m(16cm).
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Nice look, don't know what location it would be best suited to
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Track 69 is an anticlockwise street style permanent course which I messed up the scaling of. scale is 1cm=30m, giving the front straight a length of 600m(20cm). back straight without chicane is also 600m, 240m to chicane,210m after. designed for TCR racing.
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